alt Hacker NewsFrance Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.
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Semi-related thought bubble:
I wonder what would happen if EU countries started encouraging ad blocking via their ISP DNS servers?
Honestly the greatest thing trump did is help us, French, and maybe Europeans, to get back our sovereignty.
I’m fed up of having to use Americans tech for everything and people getting along with it.
Chinese managed to separate almost completely from the American tech market, eu can do it too.
Maybe get stronger relations with China too, this 70 year old consensus where we must follow the USA whatever the case is finally ending.
For instance, i bet there would a be lot to win if we diplomatically supported China annexion of Taiwan. Cheaper microprocessors, unrestricted access to newly annexed Taiwanese factories.
Indians are doing the same too.
Ought to add X to that list as well!
"You know what they call Zoom in Paris?"
"What do they call it?"
"Le Zoom"
I live and work in Germany and know many people across Europe. Admittedly more in Western Europe, and admittedly my bubble leans toward traditional industries.
I see a lot of talk about "sovereignty" and "European software". What I don’t see is action.
Does anyone working in Europe actually see signs that people are taking this seriously?
Jit.si supports the EU privacy rules
translation (and without twitter): https://www-numerama-com.translate.goog/cyberguerre/2167301-...
n1, should drop X as well
The US has already employed its technology and financial instruments, including sanctions, to coerce and control its partners. Sanctioning an ICC prosecutor and subsequently restricting Microsoft’s access to his emails and documents are just a few instances of this. They have demonstrated their willingness to use their technology, financial instruments, and sanctions against their partners. It seems almost too late for Europe to achieve its independence in both technological and financial spheres.
I wonder if the EU will begin trying to recruit American software engineers. I’d love to move to France.
Silicon Valley type of companies grew to be giants by exploiting personal data of users without any regard for privacy and lax regulations. European companies can’t match them because of the regulations and privacy laws. It’s not the lack of talent or investment that is holding EU back.
They should just fund pairux
I’ve worked at a couple monster corporations who spent a lot of time and money to move off of Google and Amazon, because they were paranoid about espionage, only to return a couple years later at even greater expense.
I doubt the French government will fare any better. They will end up spending hundreds of millions of Euros , maybe a couple billion, and have to return in a couple years. Especially with AI moats being built. AI is far too competitive. Every company will need to employ AI as a Goon ( see David Graber) to defend against all of the AI Goons going after them.
Let's hope the alternatives they build are open source
If only they'd taken their reliance on Russian natural gas so seriously.
Link to the actual article: https://www.numerama.com/cyberguerre/2167301-la-france-veut-...
Earlier repo submission: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46766004
Gee, if only there had been a European market leader in instant messaging, voice over IP and video chat in the 2000s already. Then we could just use that instead of Microsoft Teams.
For a fraction of what these products cost France could fund open source alternatives.
Edit: I'm not saying they don't.
Jami is read for the big time!
I pulled all my servers from the US months ago. Everyone I talk to is doing the same. Tech giants are going to feel this, especially when the AI bubble is going to burst.
I wish I could cancel my Office subscription but my kids still need it for school. I wrote them to take a hard look at that requirement.
Seriously, why are people still using twitter? It's owned by a Nazi supporter, is full of white nationalist racist posters, and seems a strange place to announce you are moving off of American tech.
It's wild to me that the first Trump Administration didn't teach this lesson. The "Just Trust me Bro" Foreign policy that has existed clearly only works if the person in power is trustworthy, and you have to carefully investigate any policy that is enforced by "trust". One of the most disappointing failures of the Biden Administration was that they didn't realize this.
The greatest failure of every other country was to get lulled into a false sense of security when the US Gov't shifted back to an at-all trustworthy foreign policy.
I've been recently researching if I could replace American cloud providers with something like OVH or Hetzner (the latter I occasionally use for VPS) and there is no fucking chance. It's great that 37signals and DHH can do it, and I have no trouble believing they have saved money, but for situations in which I operate, both startup and enterprise environments but where devs are scarce and teams small, it's simply not realistic.
... probably using whatng cartel web engines, and that would be ridiculous for sure.
This is the French government aiming to have all the government agencies use videoconferencing software that was developed internally by themselves.
So a huge waste of taxpayers money...
This is a pure ongoing cost to develop and maintain (more so than using an market product) while not getting any traction externally. The productive way to do this is to encourage private companies to develop these products and to support them with government contracts. There are not going to conpete with Silicon Valley if they don't create actual private competitors. Absolutely ridiculous approach but unfortunately typical of the industrial scale waste of the French government...
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Deleted tweet?
It's difficult to take an announcement like this seriously when it's posted on Twitter.
If they did it by growing open source competitors, it would be brilliant. Linux-equivalents for all major categories.