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Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

776 pointsby srigiyesterday at 11:07 PM669 commentsview on HN

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8cvor6j844qw_d6today at 5:37 AM

Well, better start segregating for Google accounts.

Don't want to risk loosing access to your Google Photos, Drives, Gmail, etc.

Although at a brief read, it seems the user still have access to other Google services.

plastic_bagtoday at 3:15 AM

I'd rather use Chinese models like Kimi K2.5 or Minimax M2.5 for personal agents at this point. They are almost as smart but 10x cheaper and their attitude towards subscribers is use where you want.

TrackerFFtoday at 9:48 AM

I was going to ask the other day, how long until people start getting banned left and right from the big services, after they start using / integrating openclaw? Seems like the other big issues, other than the security aspects. And knowing how kafkaesque it is to deal with companies like google, I don't hope the claw practitioners are too integrated with products from companies like google.

dnwyesterday at 11:50 PM

This is like ISPs banning customers in the 90s for using Napster to download music.

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user7878today at 6:36 AM

I believe google might be coming up with similar offering hence this is first step to restrict user to use rival products.

ifyouknewonetoday at 6:05 AM

3.1 has made running the API so cheap that this doesn't really matter.

Who in their right might thinks it's a good idea to use something they pay a NAMED SUBCRIPTION FOR as a secondary engine in another tool?

Like, it's hilarious some of you guys think it's OC's fault for this.

It's open source software, with extensive documentation that anything you do with it being at your own risk.

It's no one's fault but the people plugging their oauth into this thing like complete MORONS lol

verdvermyesterday at 11:30 PM

Anthropic did something similar too didn't they, iirc it was blocking 3rd party tools from the subscription plans?

Sounds like the same here. Are they against to ToS in either case?

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hansonkdtoday at 12:58 AM

A lot of people running OpenClaw just have it generated and burning tokens for no reason. They just know more tokens = doing stuff so want to spend as many tokens as possible.

theturtletalkstoday at 12:14 AM

I can guarantee in their attempt to stop OpenClaw users, some users using it normally will get caught in the dragnet. It could mean your whole Google account is suspended, not just for Antigravity.

I would highly encourage you to not only stop using Antigravity oAuth for OpenClaw, but to use Antigravity with a side account or stop using it altogether. Is using Antigravity worth losing your main account or getting it banned for using paid services (for extra storage, YouTube premium, etc). Even side accounts are risky since in the post thread people are saying Google applied the ban to all their accounts.

PLenztoday at 12:39 AM

Of course they don't like it. CLAW makes the platform fungible and once that happens the magic by which their insane multiples of values exist bursts.

jaikanttoday at 7:20 AM

We are in 2026, AI is all around, and we still need to accept Google doing this?

traveler01today at 8:50 AM

At this point im reaching the conclusion that Google hates winning.

throwpoastertoday at 12:11 AM

To be accurate, when you auth OpenClaw the Google page specifically says to not proceed unless you are authorizing a Google product.

I just assumed it was a warning about security breaches, not business plan breaches.

alainrktoday at 11:39 AM

I can confirm, happened to me a few days ago

hnburnsytoday at 4:04 AM

Is this how tech companies operate now...

1) Stand up a service 2) ??? 3) Profit

??? - worry about any substantial support later

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alexandre_mtoday at 12:38 AM

It should be obvious that these services are operating at a loss. The monthly subscriptions especially, but I’m even skeptical that the linear API pricing is sustainable.

It feels like a classic “drug dealer” model to me. Get everyone hooked with cheap access, then raise prices later. Unless there’s a major breakthrough in the underlying technology, I don’t see how a significant price increase isn’t inevitable once adoption is locked in.

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prdonahuetoday at 4:10 AM

Isn't this sort of repeated communication gaffe why they hired @OfficialLoganK?

bryan_wtoday at 2:28 AM

Oof. Google definitely fired too many people if this is how they are handling account violations for people paying them multiple hundreds of dollars a month.

Normally there would be a normal, well adjusted person in the room to remind them that "zero tolerance" policies for situations that can happen by mistake is silly

kristjanssontoday at 12:51 AM

Why is everyone surprised, these subscriptions are basically toys. You pay so much, and you get about that much in inference compute, more if you’re lucky / early.

If you want to real use these things get an API key and pay the true marginal cost of your compute like a grown up.

poszlemtoday at 12:06 AM

Between this, and whatever Claude has been doing lately, like giving the AI the ability to just disconnect if it dislikes your prompt, I really hope more people realize that local LLMs are where it's at.

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stevefan1999today at 3:33 AM

At this point, running Chinese model like GLM-5 or Kimi K2 would be far more safer than risking off your LLM subscriptions. Quite the irony that our AI techno-feudal corpo overlords doesn't want to see their LLM take off with curious and useful open source ideas. Just like Microsoft, they deliberately buried it for some reason.

Oh, maybe not, they did it in the name of "terms of service abuse" and "risk assessment".

Thus it would be far better if we can just have SOTA open weight model to run OpenClaw/Clawdbot/Molt at least we are under control. And as you see the two Chinese models I mentioned are indeed open weight, albeit taking atrocious amount of resource to really self host, and you probably need to have abliterations to remove their political guardrails.

Sigh. We can't have great things with those big tech corpos and CCP politics. Big question: Why has this world gone to shit lately.

snvzztoday at 4:22 PM

Likely very legit restriction based on ToS violation.

People accounts shouldn't be used by bots. That's what service accounts are for.

keepamovintoday at 1:45 AM

<Blasts terminal>: Boring conversation anyway.

wewewedxfgdftoday at 4:10 AM

Well OpenClaw is an OpenAI product now, right?

Effectively.

josephcsibletoday at 2:55 AM

> we are unable to reverse the suspension

I hate when companies say "unable" when they mean "unwilling". Google's statement is a lie because it's neither impossible nor illegal for them to change or rescind their policy, or give users an exception to it.

KayLtoday at 7:51 AM

one of my account is banned without any reason. I don't even use OpenClaw.

bob1029today at 1:06 PM

I'm struggling with the economics. It comes off as performative bullshit to me. I thought we were buying entire Apple machines to run our "claws". But, we are simultaneously so poor that we have to smuggle tokens?

antdx316today at 1:56 AM

Account ban?

I just use Gemini 3.1 Pro (High) on Antigravity.

GPT-5.3-Codex is the best on OpenClaw.

Sonnet 4.6 uses 50x more session tokens than GPT-5.3-Codex on OpenClaw.

zb1plustoday at 6:06 AM

This is such a braindead move. Western AI companies short-term greed will just let Chinese companies win. If I were google, I'd just throttle or release a heavily cached version of their API for OpenClaw and automatically detect and direct openclaw usage to this model. Personally, Anthropic and Google's recent moves are just making me go all-in on self-hosted AI.

throwaway13337today at 2:32 AM

These companies are engaged in a sort of AI dumping. Cheap inference below cost.

Price out competitors. Abuse your newfound dominance.

It's the big tech playbook.

I don't think it's going to work this time.

Tools like OpenClaw are an existential threat precisely because it allows the user control over their experience. The value in it cannot be captured by a monopoly.

LLMs don't seem to be a very good moat. At the same time, the software moat is eroding due to those same LLMs.

Telecom tech killed telecom dominance.

With some luck, Google tech will kill Google dominance.

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cmrdporcupinetoday at 2:23 AM

Meanwhile it's day 3? 4? since Gemini 3.1 was announced with a claim that Gemini CLI users would have access to it, but AI Pro subscribers still don't see it, and there's been no clarification from Google about what is going on, and why:

https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/issues/19532

They are not serious. I only keep the "AI Pro" sub because it comes with a couple terabytes of Drive storage for the family.

Anyways, Google, nobody wants to use your bad VSCode fork. I want to use my own tools, and use your model where it makes sense as part of my own workflow.

varispeedtoday at 11:08 AM

Why they can't rate limit or do some other sensible resource management? Too hard?

tom_mtoday at 3:14 AM

Meh, that's ok. Not using openclaw anyway. Doesn't sound useful to be frank.

ogertoday at 7:04 AM

Both Google and Anthropic are choosing the wrong route here. While I see the formal aspect of abusing an OAuth token and burning through subsidized tokens, this only creates an internal accounting problem in the short term.

Meanwhile the rising popularity of Claws creates a yet untapped new market segment where users spend significant tokens.

A „soft“ migration of users by explaining to them how the API works, how to pay and how to change from OAuth would be way smarter.

The way this plays out right now is that current Claws users are massively penalized by being suspended indefinitely and new users will think twice. And we can expect a solid PR disaster / Streisand effect for the „poor“ model providers like OpenAI or Anthropic.

Commercially choosing the soft route by warning and throttling will be way smarter and possibly generate more long term revenue

bandramitoday at 5:36 AM

This kind of crap is exactly what I don't want to spend energy worrying about, so I'll wait a few months for the models I can host to catch up.

therobots927today at 3:32 AM

And the AI price shock begins…

FrozenSynapsetoday at 9:48 AM

legit ban, violating tos, using antigravity tokens for open claw token burning machine

AISnakeOiltoday at 12:51 AM

This is how open source wins

azerathtoday at 4:40 AM

How!!!

azerathtoday at 4:40 AM

How

stevevunytoday at 4:30 AM

For fuck sake, OpenClaw is destroying everything. Shitty users of OpenClaw will force the LLM providers to limit quotas for legitimate users. OpenClaw should die.

vdrutstoday at 2:08 PM

That's BS

prescriptivisttoday at 1:22 AM

Assuming these plans are based on Gemini, Google is doing these users a favor, frankly.

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bossyTeachertoday at 7:44 AM

See? This is what a monopoly player flexing looks like. For the people putting all their eggs in a single basket. Can we please stop supporting centralised services? It only gets worse from here.

sergiotapiatoday at 2:24 AM

Does anyone know if this ban means you lose your email/pixel/youtube/google ads/google gtm stuff?

This basically makes it a deal breaker to use google ai stuff because you can be royally fucked by one ban.

nprateemtoday at 3:41 AM

LOL. This entire thread basically reads why you should never build dev tools. It's difficult to find a more entitled, cheapskate bunch of people who are completely clueless about business.

TIL it's "unfair" to sell a product for a particular purpose and offer subsidised rates to build a customer base. Different planet.

dborehamtoday at 2:12 AM

So there is such a thing as a free lunch! Oh wait...

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