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US orders diplomats to fight data sovereignty initiatives

404 pointsby colinhbtoday at 2:48 PM334 commentsview on HN

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guywithahattoday at 4:05 PM

To be fair data sovereignty is usually just a way for governments to crack down on free speech/internet usage. They require all the company servers be in the country, then when they want to get information it's easier to get a warrant and threaten to take away all their servers. This is what they did in China/Russia and why they're doing it in the EU.

It's also probably just good business for the US, but locking down on citizen freedom is the only real reason I've seen countries do it.

tristortoday at 4:00 PM

Great, that means its working. I hope every single country in the world builds competent IT infrastructure. Having more competition will help us to develop more and better technology and have more alternatives, and overall increase the quality and resilience of technology globally. The current effective monopsy of US cloud providers has caused an unnecessary hard convergence that prevents innovation, is dangerous to privacy and security, and unnecessarily hinders national sovereignty.

SilverElfintoday at 3:17 PM

Why are US tech stocks not falling yet due to the trend of countries decoupling?

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petretoday at 9:41 PM

Yeah, good luck with that. That ship has long sailed since Snowden and the Merkel phone affair. Threats to annex Greenland didn't help either.

Havoctoday at 9:44 PM

Thank you trump administration for doing more for European data sovereignty in one year than the last 20 years combined lol

midnighthollowctoday at 3:42 PM

Given the socio-political climate, it's really bonkers to go bashing every ally the US has had since WW2 and then in the other hand go "No No No, trust only us with your data"

What could go wrong?

recursivedoubtstoday at 3:42 PM

are we the baddies?

jmclnxtoday at 3:11 PM

Good luck with that. I hope the EU is not stupid enough to stop this initiative.

This would not be happening if it was not for the US dummy in chief. The EU was looking to do this for a while, but where taking its time until recent events.

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surgical_firetoday at 3:37 PM

> The cable said the Trump administration was pushing for "a more assertive international data policy" and that diplomats should "counter unnecessarily burdensome regulations, such as data localization mandates."

For any government in Europe, it should be extremely pressing to untangle itself as quickly as possible from US-based companies as suppliers.

But to be frank, even regulations should be unnecessary here. Private businesses in Europe (and elsewhere) should consider it an existential threat to depend on cloud services from the US. We are all one executive order away from having access cut.

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Sirikontoday at 3:25 PM

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nova22033today at 4:16 PM

Why is it wrong for US diplomats to advocate for a policy that clearly benefits US companies?

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WarmWashtoday at 4:26 PM

Europe, if you want good tech businesses you need to create a tech business friendly environment.

Banning US tech companies without creating (really) fertile grounds for business is just going to be shooting yourself in the foot. A replacement Google won't grow on a farm only fed worker/consumer fertilizer.

It's almost diabolical that the only way Europe can get rid of the US, is to be more like the US.

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erentztoday at 10:27 PM

The people in this regime and their supporters really seem surprised to discover that actually other countries do have agency and national pride. Serious empathy gap in these people.

The US owned the world’s tech stack and countries let it because it was convenient and despite its problems people mostly trusted the US was on their side. In one year we’ve utterly destroyed that and made ourselves enemies of the democratic world. That Silicon Valley did not see this would threaten its global business says something.

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