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Is my blue your blue? (2024)

628 pointsby theogravityyesterday at 8:24 PM410 commentsview on HN

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danbmil99yesterday at 10:49 PM

Dunno if this is a late-in-life thing or I was always like this, but I definitely need more blue to see blue than most (this test put me at 82%, I think that means I'm in the lowest quintile for seeing blue?) Bright blue still looks mighty blue, but when light is dim, I basically see black where most would still see blue.

Practical ramifications: * Some of my 'black' shirts are blue when it's sunny * Popular desktop themes (solarized dark) have text that is completely unreadable

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jFriedensreichtoday at 7:54 AM

apart from not giving the "neither" option of turquoise, you cannot just line up asking without neutralising perception in between eg. with a non blue/green and then white before the next test. Color perception is >relative< not just across individuals, not sure how someone interested enough in blue perception does not understand this.

phyzix5761today at 10:40 AM

We never get to find out what the author's blue is

dgantoday at 7:58 AM

> For you, the turquoise is green!

No, turquoise is turquoise. You gave me two options, and you act like I didn't know that word exists

dangyesterday at 9:39 PM

Related:

Is My Blue Your Blue? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41430258 - Sept 2024 (527 comments)

nubinetworkyesterday at 9:32 PM

I must be colourblind, most of those look the same on my phone.

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moritzwarhiertoday at 8:18 AM

My blue is in fact what others see as red, and vice versa, but I wasn't able to verify it yet!

HoldOnAMinuteyesterday at 9:27 PM

>> Your boundary is at hue 177, bluer than 76% of the population. For you, turquoise is green.

Not really sure how to interpret this. Where is "normal" on the curve?

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throwaway93241today at 7:07 AM

This is cretinous. There's a well defined colour in between blue and green which is turquoise / cyan. It even says at the end "You see turquoise as x". No I don't, I see it as turquoise. It's like asking is the red or is this yellow without acknowledging the existence of orange. Either rage bait or pure idiocy.

red75primeyesterday at 9:48 PM

I forgot that my display is in night mode (reducing blue light intensity). And I ended up with "your boundary is bluer than 98% of the population."

ivanjermakovtoday at 7:22 AM

I suggest replacing "is" with "is closer to", since shown color is obviously not blue nor green.

notatoadtoday at 2:17 AM

I did it twice. The first time, I was bluer than 57% the second time I was greener than 63%.

Balgairtoday at 4:28 AM

Interesting!

I have UV filters on my glasses and things really changed when I took them on of off. I was much greener with the UV filtering glasses on. I guess my eyes are not picking up on things somehow.

sbinneetoday at 3:47 AM

In Korean, we have an adjective "푸르다". It is somewhere between blue and green. You can say trees are that, oceans are that. It also means unripe.

Yeah, so to me, tortoise is definitely blue.

Edit: typo tortoise -> turquoise

Night_Thastustoday at 1:08 AM

This is also going to be very difficult because:

* HDR vs SDR mode

* Different monitors have different color replication ranges

* Monitor and OS color and brightness controls (brightness affects color perception)

* Interior lighting

* Monitor technology (LCD, OLED, etc)

Meaning even if a color was meant to be X, it just won't appear that way given the combinations above.

oztentoday at 12:26 AM

Showing the completion screen and giving the ability to use a slider to pick the center might be more useful.

drfloyd51yesterday at 11:07 PM

Some languages don’t make a distinction. And if a language doesn’t have a word for green or blue it won’t have a word for brown or orange either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue%E2%80%93green_distinction...

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dc96yesterday at 10:58 PM

Noticing on my monitor that it's more blue if I tiptoe and look down, and it's obviously green when looking at below.

I think a better way to standardize this without too much variance in color would be make the user denote on the screen where they are actually looking perpendicular to the screen and judge from that area.

ycuser2today at 5:37 AM

Your monitor model, screen settings, .. play a significant role in here. Try it on different screens to get different results.

FarmerPotatoyesterday at 10:13 PM

Thanks to the TMS9918, I know cyan when I see it! Years of seeing cyan on a composite monitor where hue is tricky to adjust. My tolerance for the amount of green allowed in cyan is higher. And if it's cyan, it's blue. I see I classified quite a few greenish as cyan therefore blue.

ForgotMyUUIDtoday at 7:44 AM

On the third step, this is turquoise and there is no button for that answer.

mboyesterday at 9:59 PM

I feel like there needs to be some sort of intermediate black screen between the questions, a visual "palette cleanser" if you will. I was actively noticing the saturation of the color decline as I stared at the screen.

egonschieleyesterday at 9:46 PM

Warm blue vs cool blue is another interesting social question: https://www.ducktyped.org/p/a-colorful-controversy

caymanjimyesterday at 11:06 PM

I wouldn't call most of those colors green or blue. Most of them looked identical to me as well. I ended up picking arbitrarily for all but the two I thought were distinctly one or the other.

nox21125yesterday at 9:40 PM

>> Your boundary is at hue 173, greener than 57% of the population. For you, turquoise is blue.

very subtle changes in color after the first two. it also seems to be repeating blue -> green -> blue -> green, for me atleast.

jp57yesterday at 10:21 PM

I have my doubts about the value of a two-alternative forced choice task for this. I was pretty much answering randomly both of the time because I wouldn't ncessarily have called either green or blue.

D-Machinetoday at 12:05 AM

Asinine and meaningless. Forces a classification on something that obviously anyone with fully-functioning colour vision will classify as "aquamarine" or "turquoise" or etc.

This has nothing at all to do with colour perception, or, if actual differences in perception are involved, this test fails to distinguish those from individual differences in assignment to linguistic categories.

EDIT: To actually test something like this, you need to make an assumption that cannot easily be tested or supported by evidence.

E.g. say we could all agree that, generally, blue + orange is a more pleasant pairing than blue + green. One might then imagine a series of images using orange + varying interpolations between blue and green, with the prompt being "is this combination of colours more or less aesthetically pleasing than the last". The average cutpoint could then be interpreted as a subjective judgement of where e.g. teals become "more blue", from an aesthetic / complementary standpoint. But this test does nothing of the sort.

wiljyesterday at 9:47 PM

This is awesome! I have a slight case of tritanopia in one eye and it was neat to see the difference. My boundary is bluer by 59% in one eye and 87% in the other. It tracks with what I would have expected.

Rapzidyesterday at 10:46 PM

I don't find this compelling as it seems to me it's well acknowledged there are colors that are BOTH. As in there are colors widely considered to be blue-green. Blue and Green.

Sweepitoday at 7:46 AM

TIL: I mixed up the meaning of turquoise and teal.

bojoyesterday at 11:25 PM

While neat, I don't get consistent scores if I retry it a few times. If it leads with a series of greens first, my score is more green oriented, and vice versa.

jamesonyesterday at 9:42 PM

"teal" is the name for color "Moderate bluish green"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teal

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kazinatortoday at 1:29 AM

The test's gradient does not have even luminence/saturation.

It needs to interpolate between blue and green in the CIELAB color space.

Xcelerateyesterday at 11:48 PM

My mind was blown once when I heard multiple people calling yellow Gatorade (lemon lime) green. I have no clue how anyone perceives it that way.

merge_softwaretoday at 2:18 AM

This is really great. Love the chart at the end. Apparently I evaluate heavily toward thinking green is blue.

cyostyesterday at 10:08 PM

It looks like this project got forked and updated further https://ismycolor.com/

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dueltmp_yufsyyesterday at 9:48 PM

I was always fascinated by this kind of question as a kid. Like I would imagine that everyone had all the colors mixed up and we were each seeing something different.

LastTraintoday at 4:39 AM

The hot debate in my house: is it yellow or green. Is there a test for that?

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dluantoday at 6:38 AM

This is obviously 青.

turtleyachtyesterday at 11:47 PM

> Your boundary is at hue 181, bluer than 87% of the population. For you, turquoise is green.

Pretty sure I accidentally picked blue for a green once.

coldteayesterday at 10:39 PM

If you're not colorblind, yes. More or less.

Not much sense for the evolutionary machinery to keep the whole backend the same, but diverge in the perception part.

layer8yesterday at 9:53 PM

This only checks a single brightness level per hue. I bet that two people who agree for those levels might very well disagree at other levels, and vice versa.

adxltoday at 12:58 AM

I used to own a house in California which I swore was peach, my coworker told me face it the house is pink.

Insanitytoday at 12:28 AM

Would be cool to see a gender distribution. Women perceive more colours than men, wonder how it impacts this.

iterateoftenyesterday at 9:58 PM

Im left delighted to find out something new, but left wanting to know how to use it.

Like if im 75% on the green transition, how do i use this information.

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malbsyesterday at 10:18 PM

Also no way to account for the variation of LCD displays. The same "colour" can look different on two different panels

timnetworksyesterday at 9:35 PM

> Your boundary is at hue 172, greener than 63% of the population. For you, turquoise is blue.

isn't turquoise exactly (50%) between the two?

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fagnerbracktoday at 8:04 AM

Witgeinstein's Beetle xD

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