alt Hacker NewsClaude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"
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Anthropic is losing a ton of goodwill by not being more honest about their constraints. They've been buckling under load for months, and instead of doing the most honest thing (keep weekly usage limits same, make 5 hour usage limits have surge pricing where the usage-cost of X tokens is scaled based on dynamic load), they're doing a lot of hacky things to try to get a similar effect. I suspect they feel the optics of being honest would be too bad, so instead it's a slow bleed where they piss off users one by one
I asked claude if it thought openclaw was better. It said it didn't know what openclaw was.
looks like it's fixed (i tried it with my claude account)
This is what being banned in the age of LLMs will look like.
Wonder if they tested that with actual code.
possibly related, it errors if my working directory is a checkout of OpenCode. i was using CC to work on some patches for OC and had to work in a parent directory and then tell Claude to work on the files inside the "opencode" folder.
We are going to need agent neutrality laws soon.
A friendly reminder to any Claude subscribers, that you were probably auto-opted-in to "Extra Usage". You can disable it on the "Usage" page [0] before getting a bill for "extra" usage.
If it matters then it needs to be open source.
I am reminded of user-agent sniffing and the idiocy that created. One would hope that this leads to less self-identifying overall. At this point it looks less like a cat-and-mouse game but more like a cat-and-cat game, but all the cats are equally retarded. I suppose it makes for good entertainment for the rest of us who don't need to use, and now have another reason not to start using, all this AI stuff.
Do as I do. Just call it OpenClown from now on.
So... what if you are a contributor to OpenClaw and like using Claude Code? Simply not allowed?
OpenClaw can just rebrand again, problem solved!
Everyday they make me dislike them even more
“Wow, can’t believe our metrics this month, usage is way up! all our users are maxing out their token limits, KPI already achieved for the quarter!”
Everyday they make dislike them even more
i wouldn't be surprised if we see class action lawsuits from this given it's so easily reproducible by so many
So far, after reading ~20 HN comments, I see one mention of something akin to "I verified this myself". Where are the people saying "Maybe this is true, but please tell me you considered other explanations first!"
I try to avoid X, and I put relatively low credence in a HN account I don't know. [1] Browsing X, it looks like something like 1 out of 20 say they verified.
Who here has _verified_ this claim or can find a _quality_ source that has? Not X. Someone who will take serious reputational or financial damage if they are wrong?
It is 2026. Think about epistemics. What do you believe and why? And why should I believe you if you aren't asking this question?
This situation has many characteristics of being an information cascade. [2] Raise your hand if you piled on before thinking it through. Be honest. Everyone does it sometimes. Intellectually honest people own it.
P.S. I am _not_ making a claim about the original statement. Don't shoot the messenger: somebody needs to say what I'm saying.
[1]: "We cannot trust identity like we used to here on HN ... we live in a world or anyone or any AI can claim almost anything ... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47804884
Surely they can just ask Claude Code to fix this? After all, coding is a solved problem right?
Highly relevant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principal–agent_problem
(You're the principal, directing what to do, but your agent Anthropic has its own motivations that are not aligned with your will.)
I find it interesting that I use Opus tokens and I have 0 issues.
I hereby propose we rename the HN frontpage to "Claude Customer Support"
Is it just me or everybody finds the "charging extra" a bit vague? I don't deny it simply curious: how much?
Just curious if that is automatic or someone manually check all that
Claude is bad for business....that is painfully obvious.
At this point I assume you are coping with having drank the koolaid and fired key staff believing claude will replace them...back when it was cheap....because nearsightedness affects decision makers much more during hype cycles......
How the hell did something like this ever make into the product?
I can't even have Claude assist in creating a Hermes or OpenClaw agent that utilizes a 3rd party API?
This is Skynet 8.0.
After they fought humans and dumbed them down into AI-slavery, the machines now fight one another. Claude versus OpenClaw - may the worst win! \o/
I am using Claude Code with GLM, Kimi, MiniMax and Xiaomi MiMo. So this doesn't happen to me. :P
Imagine you trained the large language model which is too dangerous for humanity but you regexp over git commits to solve your subscription subsidy issues
I tried to replicate this but Claude was already down https://status.claude.com/
When asking about Openclaw in normal Claude Webchat it very peculiarly denied knowing what that is.
Even when asked to search online it still gaslighted me about it.
But Peter Steinberger said that openclaw was “fully supported” with a subscription through claude -p.
Do these refusals still happen if you’re using an API key instead?
So I suppose Anthropic lied to him?
Ok I am usually defending Anthropic, but it seems like this OpenClaw and Hermes ban was implemented incredibly poorly; it looks like a simple regex.
Didn’t they think about “we need to make sure Claude Code is never banned” ? Could have been as easy as including some Claude Code specific prompting traits (tools, system prompt, whatever) in there and automatically whitelisting it.
Is it foolproof? No. Will it avoid banning legit users? Absolutely.
First do the first large sweep, then see what still falls through, then ban those.
It really seems they were panicking due to capacity and there was very little oversight with all this.
I’m not affected but pretty disappointed.
The account posted is a massive grifter. He trolls twitter to make content for his youtube channel, which seems to be his primary occupation.
I am not saying that claude has not done this, I am just saying you need a better source than the Jake Paul of tech influencers.
Having had Claude Code jump to inserting juvenile and all-filtering regex to (attempt to) solve open-ended semantic natural language problems (-sigh- there's 12 hours of my life I'll never get back), I can absolutely imagine that this was someone trying to code up a "defense in depth" mechanic that was explosively insufficient after Claude Code (even Opus 4.6) made a series of faulty assumptions.
This one feels like prime space for Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
The hassle with the performance of these systems is that they're ~70% of the way to awesome. For advanced prototyping (my current job description), a fast 60% of awesome is groundbreaking and game-changing. For production and real businesses, that last 30% is a really, really important thing to figure out.
Oh come on Anthropic, just admit straight away that any other pricing than usage-based is completely unsustainable and is being phased out.. maybe doing it once but officially could save you some brand damage.
People who think LLMs are neutral tools are delusional. They will be used not just to shape public discourse (like "social networks") but more importantly they can be used to shape an individual's thinking.
If facebook/twitter/reddit are perfectly OK with intentionally increasing addictivity but are restricted by having to show you only existing stuff, what do you think will happen when LLM companies can generate new stuff tailored to each individual person?
Anthropic IPO will be massive, it'll start dirt cheap (thanks FUD) and it'll reach the moon in no time, to /s or not to /s, that is the question
Interesting people talking about whether they should be "defended," here or whatnot, and all of that strikes me as wildly naive.
They have a business model that's more or less known, and that includes THEIR AI model(s) that they get to put out there however they want. I don't like it much at all, I actually sort of like the idea that they "owe" more because they probably "stole" a bunch of stuff to get the thing going.
But I mean, don't be mad, be proactive. Anthropic is going to try to Microsoft this in whatever way possible, and we all see that the numbers don't really add up.
Asking them pretty please to be nicer, meh. Let's figure out better, and more free-software-like ways to do this.
OK, so, OpenAI represents the worst of Silicon Valley 2026.
Anthropic is going a different direction but not better.
But, but, but Opus 4.7 says "I'm Claude, an AI assistant made by Anthropic. I'm not familiar with "OpenClaw". How could it be that it somehow knows about OpenClaw anyway. Clearly these tools does NOT work as stated.
This is almost like shadow-banning.
Absurd, really.
what a company with really bad customer practices. I'm really glad I moved entirely to open source models. if you're disgusted by these practices as I am, I really recommend you use opencode (or any of the other 20 agents) and the GLM 5.1, or Kimi K2.6 or Deepseek V4 Pro models. You will be shocked how effective they are.
haven't used claude in about 2 weeks and I do not miss it.
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Honestly, this isn't a change really from how anthropic has operated for a long, long time. They did the same with OpenCode, pi, etc. There isn't anything that can stop you from using the SDK, however.