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jonhohleyesterday at 6:24 AM1 replyview on HN

That’s not how it works, though. Buy, borrow, die doesn’t rely on retail margin rates. It’s closer to 3-5%.

Assets are used as collateral for loans that don’t require any repayment until death. Generally the borrower can borrow up to 75% of their collateralized asset, and that loan is not taxed. When they die the assets are passed to heirs and stepped up to their current value as the new cost basis. They’re sold to repay the loan and interest. No taxes paid on the loan “income”, no taxes paid on the capital gains, 3-5% interest paid for the outstanding balance of the loan and I’m sure some of that gets taxed. Because the collateralized asset stays invested the entire time, it usually grows faster than the interest that will eventually be paid.


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WalterBrightyesterday at 6:24 PM

The 10.4% margin rate is Etrade's best interest rate, and it's only for large amounts. I looked it up.

> When they die the assets are passed to heirs and stepped up to their current value as the new cost basis...no taxes paid on the capital gains

And then your entire estate is taxed at 40%.

> and that loan is not taxed

Of course it is not taxed. A loan is not income, and is not an asset. It's a liability.

> Because the collateralized asset stays invested the entire time, it usually grows faster than the interest that will eventually be paid.

The higher the return, the higher the risk. It is normal practice to borrow money to invest it hoping for higher returns than the interest. It is not a scam.

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