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mrlonglongyesterday at 9:52 AM3 repliesview on HN

White supremacists on the rise in the US. Never forget, there were people already in the US when they first arrived. White supremacists stole their lands.

Come to the EU instead, we want more STEM people.


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_doctor_lovetoday at 2:34 AM

Ah yes, the EU, which has no problems with white nationalism.

jmyeettoday at 8:22 AM

White supremacy never left. There are a whole bunch of people in the US that never got over the abolition of chattel slavery and arguably we're in this mess because not enough slaveowners were strung up after the Civil War. And by "not enough" I really mean "anything less than all of them".

That may sound harsh, even hyperbolic, but we teach a really whitewashed version of slavery in schools, like these were just laborers who worked the fields but just happened to be owned by people. That couldn't be further from the truth. Conditions were normally horrible. The conditions captured people were kept in in Africa, the Middle Passage, the slave auctions, the living conditions, the physical violence, the loss of language and culture, the destruction of family units and, last but certainly not least, the industrial-scale, systematic rape of enslaved people for centuries, easily numbering in the tens of millions of victims.

But I have to object to the implication that the EU is somehow free of any of this. Like the UK, France and Germany (in particular) don't have far-right to neo-Nazi movements threatening to take over government.

Also, ask any average European about Romany, Syrians, Turks, North Africans, Arabs, Muslims in general, Polish people or Russians and there's a decent chance you won't get American-style racism, you'll get almost "scientific racism". I'd posit that a decent number of Europeans are only 1-2 steps away from taking phrenology seriously.

You will hear arguments like "they don't assimilate" or "it's cultural not racism", just as you would in the US.

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