alt Hacker News> Disagreeing with me doesn't prove the point. Deciding he's a Zionist based on what you think he believes, rather than what he's actually said on record, that proves it.
I’ve judged him to be a Zionist based on what he says. Not hearsay. Curious, I’ve never implied that I merely “think” he believes something—I’ve seen and heard it with my own eyes. Oh well, must be a miscommunication or misunderstanding.
> Come back with receipts or don't bother.
Because you had receipts???
> And that's the thing isn't it: you're not actually against suffering, you're against suffering by the right people. Klein catches flak for being Jewish and insufficiently hostile, meanwhile the bar for the other side is apparently just... existing. That's not a principled position.
All madeup strawman bullshit.
> "Too busy grieving to talk about Hamas", that's exactly how some Israelis feel when they hide IDF soldiers from justice, and I condemn them for it too.
You’re misunderstanding. Many pro-Palestinians solely defend the innocent. They never defend Hamas or any combatants. And what do they get in return for standing up for the massacred innocent? A truckload of shit.
The five hour debate is the receipt. Quote something specific or we're done on Klein.
You've spent this entire thread arguing that judging people by their ethnicity rather than their actual positions is wrong. Then you decided Klein is a Zionist not because of what he said, but because of what you've decided someone like him must believe.
That's the definition of what you came here to argue against.
Pro-Palestinians who only defend innocents get abuse for it: yes, and that's wrong. Jews who do the same get the same treatment, and you've been defending that standard this whole conversation without seeming to notice.
Everyone in this conflict believes they're punching up. Israel, Hamas, everyone. It's the most self-assigned label in politics and it's why it can't be the moral standard.
You don't get to oppose racism selectively. That's not opposition to racism.