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itkovian_yesterday at 8:00 PM6 repliesview on HN

The US isn’t what it used to be. It’s definitely not the best place in the world to live for quality of life, on basically any metric.

The requirement of being permanently obligated to pay us taxes on global income, if you have any kind of global mobility, is not worth it when you look at the situation objectively. The US is the only country that requires this, and signing up is voluntarily.

So while US immigration continues to act as though people will jump through any hoop they put up in order to be granted the extreme privilege of being able to live in the country indefinitely, it’s worth realising it’s not the 70s anymore and thats a goal many people are no longer optimizing for. In fact the opposite - the most talented people I know are all planning their lives to not settle long term in the US.


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wg0today at 2:02 AM

There's a term called "US Person". Many European banks will refuse to open your bank account if you're a "US Person" and require upfront declaration that I'm not a "US Person."

Reason? Because banks don't want to deal with the mandatory annual reporting of the "US Persons" to US government on regular basis.

Their solution? Don't have a "US Person" as your client.

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gpt5today at 2:12 AM

People said the same when the $100K fee for H1b was introduced, and said that the US won't be able to fill the 85,000 spots. But there were 211,600 applications in the last cycle.

Also, your other 'facts' are incorrect. The US for example has the highest amount of disposable income per family, has a lower tax burden (despite your complaint about it) then almost all developed countries, and there is one more (small) country with global taxation.

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itkovian_yesterday at 10:45 PM

The extreme privilege of being forced to pay a major portion of all income you make, regardless of where you earn it, to the us gov indefinitely. And they make it hard for you to apply to do this. Crazy.

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matwoodtoday at 11:40 AM

> The requirement of being permanently obligated to pay us taxes on global income

Many countries have higher rates than the US and have reciprocal treaties to avoid double taxation. In practice it means many people end up paying zero taxes to the US. Of course it will depend on the country you want to reside in, but then what's the point of seeking out a US passport?

freedivertoday at 3:33 AM

> The US isn’t what it used to be. It’s definitely not the best place in the world to live for quality of life, on basically any metric.

There is actually a list with metrics https://greatcountry.org (disclaimer: my pet project)

#27th

parineumtoday at 12:24 AM

> It’s definitely not the best place in the world to live for quality of life, on basically any metric.

I guess these immigrants must be stupid.

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