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U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

1148 pointsby alain94040last Friday at 6:23 PM1205 commentsview on HN

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mannanjlast Friday at 8:55 PM

A big problem is "U.S. government" muddies the conversation because of how undefinable and large that group is.

Who is deciding who gets to use GPT-5.6? Which organizations? Which leaders?

Focus on that to have a clearer conversation. Without doing this it's like jerking each other off to stroke our egos. You might as well as say "The World will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6"

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alfiedotwtflast Friday at 8:02 PM

How is this not a First Amendment issue?!

croeslast Friday at 7:43 PM

Will be hard to become profitable if you have a limited customer base

stuckkeyslast Friday at 7:30 PM

That is why running local models is going to be very important...This crooked administration doing crooked things. Nothing to see here.

dominotwlast Friday at 7:22 PM

Saltman prbly had to beg and bribe for this. imagine fable getting banned and this just going though. That would be like accepting defeat.

mannanjlast Friday at 7:12 PM

Everything is a rich man's trick.

This is rich social classes claiming more for themselves.

Someone convince me otherwise?

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smashahlast Friday at 7:05 PM

It's ok I will wait for the Chinese resellers :)

Thank you Chinese Robin Hoods

MichaelZuolast Friday at 6:55 PM

Something about this makes my stomach churn… This is not a good sign for the future of the USA.

I hope the country doesn’t become the new USSR.

kilroy123last Friday at 7:37 PM

Great now we're priced out of getting good enough hardware to run the top open sourced models locally.

It's a matter of time before the Chinese models are banned.

kristofferRlast Friday at 5:47 PM

What a party pooper the current US government is... I'm not excited right now at all, while normally a new GPT release would be so much fun to test out.

ChrisArchitectlast Friday at 1:10 PM

Related:

OpenAI Leans Toward Waiting Until Next Year for IPO

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48678873

throwaway7356last Friday at 8:03 PM

Can't the AI companies spare a small investment in Trump coin to ease the process?

dude250711last Friday at 7:36 AM

So, that DeepSeek thing, you are saying it's not that bad?

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torpfactoryyesterday at 1:05 PM

On top of the obvious grift and bribe seeking potential there is also now an obvious mechanism for ideological control. Govt doesn’t like the way the model describes the events of Jan 6? We’ll have to see how many people get to use it…

We are very clearly proceeding down the road to a dystopia here.

kyrralast Friday at 6:55 PM

It seems like this was entirely caused by Dario (and Anthropic as a whole)? When you run around marketing something as a "super weapon", the government may actually take you seriously?

We obviously can't A/B test this... but if Dario hadn't been doing that, would any of this been happening right now?

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impulser_last Friday at 6:03 PM

Again, if you think we the people are getting access to AGI you're a fool.

These models aren't even that smart and they are already trying to control them and lock them down to a handful of people.

Then these executive and VC wonder why people hate AI and are against them.

Because the future is heading toward intelligence for the rich and you stuck with whatever model they want you to have.

The next step is banning open source models.

The future is not looking so bright if these models are already going locked down to whoever the government what's to have them.

This is no different than the government banning books because they don't want you to learn.

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restersyesterday at 10:05 AM

This is what we get when the president is a nepo baby who inherited a fortune and bankrupted many companies and had mainly business failures before entering politics.

I’m quite confident that few people are more ignorant on AI than Donald Trump. That he promised less regulation and lied is no different than his many other lies.

In six months everyone will cancel frontier subscriptions.

haxhiuargjendlast Friday at 8:55 PM

crazy times

tjs275x2076last Friday at 8:59 PM

fake news

tearwearyesterday at 9:20 AM

Portfolio Communism

SpaceManNabslast Friday at 8:06 PM

it kinda seems like openai is doing this willinglyy and not challenging it. if they weren't doing this willingly, how would this be legal? has congress already passed a law giving the executive branch regulatory powers like this?

yieldcrvlast Friday at 7:06 PM

never would I have thought China would win that easily

GLM on LLM Asics is going to be amazing, US hosted or otherwise

pknerdlast Friday at 7:26 PM

The US is turning into China. LOL!

Censorship. Surveillance. (Hi, PLTR!)

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oceanplexianlast Friday at 8:17 PM

I started to have the opinion that the Chinese models would crash the AI bubble simply because they are an order of magnitude cheaper and almost as intelligent.

But if the government can simply ban models from the market? especially given how much the admin loves the idea of Tariffs? Knowing Trump the chance of this happening is 99.9%

We will all be stuck paying $50/mtok to Anthropic (And by we I mean only Big Tech will be able to afford tokens). The rest of the competition will be outcompeted by super intelligent machines. And AI CO’s /Big Tech will take over the economy.

m3kw9yesterday at 1:17 PM

Just don't say shit like it's gonna overtake the gov't systems and world, Dario.

johnathan101yesterday at 5:28 AM

now gov will decide, absolute shi

i see opensource model is big win for me.

kleiba2last Friday at 7:09 PM

"...and the land of the free!"

flipbradlast Friday at 8:14 PM

"A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism"

jmyeetlast Friday at 9:25 PM

It's fascinating to watch the US government paint China as the new bogeyman and utterly fail in it's policy of containment.

The first obvious conclusion is that China has been utterly vindicated to keep US tech giants out of China. Some have a token presence but it's clear that the Chinese government will never let a US tech government "win" in any domestic market. It will always be a Chinese company. Obligatory Silicon Valley [1].

The second is that, to that end, IMHO the US government made an error blocking the sale of high-end chips (particularly NVidia) to China. Why? Because it's created a captive market for Chinese chip manufacturing. Huawei now has billions in potential sales that might've otherwise gone to chips produced in Taiwan and South Korea.

Third, the US can somehow ban a Dutch company (ASML) from selling EUV to China. This has forced China to replicate it and they will within a few years. The interesting part of this is that all it really takes is throwing money at a few key researchers and engineers who worked for ASML. It really is using the mechanics of the Western economic system against itself.

Last, the US government will try and make US tech giants "own" or "win" AI. And they will fail because the Chinese government will make sure they fail. How? By releasing ever-better open models for free. I believe China considers this a matter of national security to not be beholden to US tech giants (and thus the US government).

The ironic thing to me is that the US is doing what the West accuses China of doing with corporate control. I'd say the actual difference is that Chinese companies are beholden to the state whereas the US government is basically 5 companies in a trenchcoat. The US wants to mint trillionaires at the expense of literally everybody else. China believes society should benefit from something they collectively make possible.

Anyway, we've been here before. Remember the crypto export ban of the 1990s and 2000s? Did that prevent higher-quality encryption from being used overseas? No. This won't help either.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km5XQxRrQvw

k12sosseyesterday at 1:24 AM

Thankfully only American content went into building it, or else that would be a total douchebag manoeuvre

jquerylast Friday at 6:51 PM

Trump admin just banned individual users like me from using it, indefinitely, under vague authority. When did we become such a nanny state?

eth0uplast Friday at 8:31 PM

When I predicted this several months ago, here (mine my comment history) I was berated and downvoted, but primarily ignored. I have records, timestamped, of predicting this a year ago. Alright, great for me, pat myself on the back and get stuffed. Roger that.

What disturbs me is that this was not extremely obvious and predictable to everyone else. I have been called schizophrenic for my views on AI, here, and I kind of see how some could miss my points, but I am genuinely perplexed by the views on the subject I see around here, or specifically the views I don't see here.

Did anyone really not see this coming long ago? I have year-old transcripts discussing exactly what's happening with AI and government intervention. I even have a time-stamped transcript with Sonnet 12 hours prior, soft-predicting the shutdown of Fable. What is not clear about this?

general1465last Friday at 8:04 PM

Good luck with those 1T USD valuations when your total addressable market now shrunk from 8 Billion people to just 300 million.

gmercyesterday at 3:16 AM

Orbans Hungary Playbook. The real headline should be “Donald Trump gets to decide”.

mrcwinnlast Friday at 7:46 PM

Wait, what happened to wanting a safety first mindset and government regulation of big tech?

ChrisArchitectlast Friday at 1:02 PM

Please avoid reddit posts of screenshots of articles OP.

[dupe] Earlier discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48678789

piokochlast Friday at 7:55 AM

One more wake up call for anyone outside USA, especially Europe. AI will be weaponized, on the battle ground too, but the bigger battle will be fought in the industry competition. Those who have access to state of the art models will have advantage over those who does not.

Hopefully open-weight models will catch up, hopefully we, as the people, engineers will find the way to maintain those open-weight models on pair with the closed ones.

I try to be optimistic, as we won some battles, against all odds, Linux is flourishing, open source solutions are mainstream.

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kmeisthaxlast Friday at 5:20 PM

> We don’t believe this kind of government access process should become the long-term default. It keeps the best tools from users, developers, enterprises, cyber defenders, and global partners who need them.

My brother in Christ, then why did you (and your competitors) spend years telling the government you needed them to tie your hands behind your back? Did you really think they'd just give you a crown that says "Gatekeeper Of All Neural Networks"?

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martythemaniaklast Friday at 6:50 PM

Honestly, are people not getting what's going on? The US is turning into a personalist regime, there is no "government" per-se, there's a dude. There are no 'rules' there's only the dude's opinion and you'll do whatever he feels like today.

The way you know this is true is to imagine The Others in power. Sacks used to scream about government interference, but now that he's running (this part of) the government, obviously things are different.

The only constant is that David Sacks (& co) always believed he should have all the power.

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cftlast Friday at 10:23 PM

If true, I think Trump is nuts. He's alienating the very people in the Silicon Valley that helped him to win.

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