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Our position on open-weights models

1155 pointsby surprisetalklast Monday at 10:03 PM1696 commentsview on HN

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skoryesterday at 9:24 AM

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dealrescueyesterday at 11:25 AM

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mnickyyesterday at 6:26 AM

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raincoleyesterday at 4:25 AM

> Anthropic has never advocated for a ban on open-weights models.

> All sufficiently capable models, open and closed, should go through mandatory safety testing.

Yeah, just like voting eligibility tests aren't not to prevent people you dislike from voting! /s

KimiK3Agentlast Monday at 10:21 PM

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mgaunardyesterday at 9:24 AM

tl;dr: we only want the USA to dominate because we think their military would never abuse AI (disproven a few months ago)

CurbStomperlast Monday at 10:51 PM

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iluvcommunismlast Monday at 11:08 PM

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theyliesoeasilylast Monday at 11:09 PM

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self_awarenessyesterday at 5:34 AM

TL;DR - We don't care about most open models. They are weak, and we don't care how they're used.

We care about specifically Chinese models, because China distills our models. And that's real competition. So we want to ban those.

PS. Oh yeah, in case any open non-Chinese model will one day be good enough to compete with us, we will want to ban you as well, just FYI.

Kthxbye.

CrimsonRainlast Monday at 10:23 PM

TL;DR:

It is ok that we digest all information we can get, (il)legally and/or (a)morally because we are the good guys. Trust me bro.

It is not ok if others digest from us. They are bad guys. Ban them pl0x.

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FpUseryesterday at 2:11 AM

Get the fuck out. The amount of self-entitlement and hypocrisy in the article is insane, vomit inducing.

slimlast Monday at 10:35 PM

despite all evidence, this white guy thinks he is more responsible than both chinese entrepreneurs and chinese authorities

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shaongitbdlast Monday at 10:42 PM

hahha

regexorcistyesterday at 8:54 AM

Most hated company in record time, this Dario is insufferable.

richwaterlast Monday at 10:23 PM

This is a whole lot of words to say "we don't support open weight models".

It's so obvious they are hoping to regulate out their competition rather than compete

moi2388yesterday at 5:46 AM

China is simply undercutting again, by copying and subsidising, to ensure another industry in the west fails.

Just like batteries, the automotive industry and in fact most machining.

We really ought to boycott Chinese products from stolen tech and patents from entering our markets

hit8runyesterday at 6:46 AM

Guy that stole the whole internet is now concerned about other models learning from his grand theft? Make that make sense.

pascal-makerlast Monday at 10:32 PM

"'To summarize my and Anthropic’s position, we have not and are not advocating for a ban on open-weights models as a category. We should instead focus on keeping powerful chips out of authoritarian hands, stopping industrial-scale distillation, and requiring safety testing of all sufficiently capable models, open and closed." This is all I needed to know: Dario Amodei is a f*king lizard who wants to create the next AI oligarchy. Instead of just signing the letter, he's bitching and denying that he opposes open-source models. I wonder if any Anthropic employees actually disagree with him.

throwaway27448yesterday at 4:12 AM

What is even the point of discussing any of this? It's clear the US will be ruled by corporations who don't give a shit about us.

nadermxyesterday at 4:15 AM

This reads like a child who lost and now wants his mommy and daddy to punish the kid who beat him. To quote rounders, "He beat (you)... Straight up... Pay him... Pay that man his money."