Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

If I compare to like, January 2024, the prices for RAM these days make me want to weep.

Will forever miss the 499$ mac mini!

Maxed out Studio is $30,000+ tax in Canada if financed through Apple.

That's wild!

M5 Pro in a Mac Mini with 64GB RAM and 10Gbit Ethernet seems like the perfect Jellyfin server and Ollama test server. All for just over $3K (I specced with only 1TB local nvme).

Wouldn’t it be amazing for Apple to give us a MacBook Air 15” M6 with a 15W sustained passive TDP capability?

Just amazing engineering push, the competition got the message and we benefit.

Hmm, I was about to get a MBP with an older Max chip, guess I should wait for prices to slide a bit.

I have Mac M1 Max and I'm quite happy with it. But these advances make me think that maybe I should upgrade to Mac M6 (or something) when it is released.

This fits neatly in the backpack with the MacBook Pro, if I need more compute power.

My m2 max is still running strong, but may upgrade soon

cool but maybe i was expecting much more from both m5 ultra and the next gen so it feels somewhat underwhelming. Hopefully m6 max is more than just a 10% improvement over m5 max

Is this the best bet for running local AI now? The choices are overwhelming.

A Macbook Neo with an M6 and 16 GB RAM at $699/€699 would be a killer feat

When will Apple's Mx CPUs use Intel's 18A/18A-P/14A node(s)?

Very well timed for John Ternus's first quarter.

i wish i could use their hardware, but i refuse their software

Saw a 768GB RAM mac coming soon, would wait for that.

How much did Larry Ellison pay to have his daughter's pet video game project featured on there?

I'm so disappointed with the memory pricing we have to endure... MacStudio M5 Pro is $2,499 base with 36GB RAM, but when you increase it to 256GB, the price jumps to $9,499!!!

Every time Intel/AMD gets close enough, Apple just crushes competition in terms of SoC. I don’t know who’s on that chip team but they’re world-class. Hope they get paid more than a bunch of AI idiots Meta hired to do absolutely nothing (but I know they are not even close).

When is the m6 air coming though

So I had just bought from Amazon in July an M4 mini, brand new, for a lucky post-hike price of 832 CA$ (682 USD); it was the very last unit at that price and I snatched it the morning it listed on the Apple/Amazon.ca official vendor. So far I've been using it for a month and it's been great (switching back from a Windows desktop for a decade).

Today I entered this new M4 mini's serial as a trade in for the M6 base mini, and the retail price went from $1249 CAD to $824 "once trade-in received". That's the automatic estimate, so basically I'd be paying twice for an upgrade...

Super psyched for the upcoming Mac Mini. Maybe the old NUC can be tossed.

Call me when Linux will be officially supported. After that I can look and see what else can I get for the price and maybe then ...

> M6 supports up to 32GB of unified memory to multitask across demanding apps

I can't believe that Apple still comes with this bullshit like 32 GBs is a lot. It's a lot for video memory - vRAM, but not RAM.

yesterday someone posted a link saying xiaomi "matched" apple's latest M series performance. Was that for less than 24 hours?

Apple is a terrible company through and through that should have been broken up million years ago. But, nobody dares to question apple.

My 2019 macbook pro recently started giving me CATERR errors. There are a few forums and LLMs tell me it is logic board. I took it to Best Buy - a location suggested by apple support and they say we could replace battery but there is no guaranteee it will work. Logic board replacement would be $600 to $800. Unfortunately, only Apple can repair it given how every component is integrated and soldered. There is no help available from Apple support or anyone on this issue.

Apple creates "Planned Obsolescence" deliberately. Every year they launch new products with minor improvements and that basically distorts markets. There is MEGA scalping going on for Mac Mini but Apple does not care. As a trillion dollar corporation seeking profits Apple does nothing to help price gauging. Unfortunately, there is no competition. Microsoft is 10x deep into its own issues.

I wish we had startups who came up with strong competition for Apple.

Is Apple just going to announce everything silently from now on? No more getting excited for the big events to see what's new -- it just appears on the blog one day?

Also: "a staggering 1.2TB/s of unified memory bandwidth" -- yay, the GPU has reached the year 2020! (I'm a bit bitter that my M4 Max is near useless for local LLMs because of its low memory bandwidth.)

I should have bought a 100 m4 mac minis when I had the chance. Thanks hyperscalers for buying all the supply and renting it back.

A m4 mac mini is better than al of these per dollar, msrp adjusted.

Hopefully by the end of the decade China figures out manufacturing at scale and fixes this.

will be great fun if one M5 Ultra with 512GB memory at 1.2T bandwidth capable of doing 3x smallish local model inferencing each at Opus 4.5 level of intelligence.

Well said

> M5 Ultra features a massive amount of high-bandwidth unified memory, up to 512GB, and delivers a staggering 1.2TB/s of unified memory bandwidth that is 50 percent higher than M3 Ultra.

Apple never needed to participate in the AI race to zero. Because they were already at the finish line years ago building their own chips that can run large >100B parameter AI models locally.

"hacker news"

I wonder why they even bothered with m5 ultra instead of going m6 ultra directly, honestly.

What’s the point?

Now if only I can natively run Linux on their hardware.

> Apple’s developer frameworks and tools — including Core AI, Core ML, Metal, and Xcode

Can we please kill the xcode. It is worst pile of garbage I have to use just to develop ios app.

fucking awesome

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>up to 1.2x faster multithreaded performance as compared to M5

Massive. I feared it would only be up to 1x the speed of an M5 /s

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>M6 supports up to 32GB of unified memory

Is this a joke?

>Additionally, M5 Ultra features a massive amount of high-bandwidth unified memory, up to 512GB

Now we're talking. But at what cost?

512GB late october sounds lame.

and 512GB is so 2025.

Give us 1TB version. Where is the competitive spirit?

Cannot believe "moar transistors" is still the only idea they have.

From what I’ve noticed, Apple products have been getting worse in quality year after year. Sometimes they even ruin their own devices with updates... I guess it’s all because of marketing.

I know they are a phone company, but I think they should focus on local models software, not only hardware.