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216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

792 pointsby treveyesterday at 12:22 AM932 commentsview on HN

https://www.notebookcheck.net/LG-smart-TVs-caught-logging-au...


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xystyesterday at 8:36 PM

Ad executives in early 2010s took note of the public response to whistleblowing of the NSA PRISM program and Edward Snowden leaks.

10+ years later, this is their response. They have learned a large majority of people just don't give a shit. We are sheep. A majority of people just want "cheap" shit, no matter the cost.

This world is cooked man. Need an asteroid to wipe this planet clean, bro.

waffletoweryesterday at 5:42 PM

The only thing I hate more than “smart” quotes are “smart” TVs. I groan whenever my LG interrupts. Now I have to spend Labor day wading through a “smart” UI I avoid like the plague to disconnect the internet.

bitwizetoday at 2:00 AM

Sceptre dumb TV bros still winning

da_grift_shiftyesterday at 10:40 AM

Oh Simon? Simon? Wherefore art thou Simon?

I thought every microphone controversy was an Unproven Conspiracy Theory™...

(https://simonwillison.net/tags/microphone-ads-conspiracy)

neilvyesterday at 2:26 PM

> During bench tests, they found the TV could capture clean microphone audio while the screen was (or at least looked to be) powered down in standby mode. When the team disconnected the TV from Ethernet, the set continued saving voice input locally and uploaded the stored files once network access was restored.

Lawyers: If it is true that the company is secretly recording voices when the device appears to be off, and then uploading the recordings, does that sound like a felony in many US states?

(And a felony that is bumping into different laws than the "unauthorized computer access" ones that tech industry has been getting leeway with?)

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jocelyneryesterday at 3:22 AM

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DudeOpotomusyesterday at 3:12 PM

Ad Tech is a cancer that is / has destroyed society. It is responsible for almost everything that is awful today. Conflating attention for interest and rewarding sensationalism has created a giant stinking hole in our lives.

It must be eradicated.

Do everything in your power to destroy these companies and their immoral business practices.

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jiaosdjfyesterday at 9:35 AM

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like_any_otheryesterday at 10:10 AM

I will remind everyone again that weev was raided by the FBI, arrested, and had all electronics seized, before getting a chance to defend himself in court, all for the crime of publishing emails he found on unsecured URLs he was able to guess.

But we're allowing 1000x worse things, because what, there's a vague line about it buried deep in some EULA, which means laws no longer apply?

Lets treat them the same. Raid LG, seize all of their electronics, at least in the US (other countries are encouraged to do their own raids), arrest the executives, and after they're all in jail, and digital forensics are poring over their products and servers to find what else they did, they can argue in court how actually all these crimes are legal.

It's only fair.

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kwarcodeyesterday at 6:29 PM

So in the living room I should fap less... or more?

ed_mercertoday at 1:38 AM

Why would you ever connect a TV to the internet in the first place?

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lrvicktoday at 2:09 AM

It is a screen. You plug an HDMI cable into your source device and another into the TV. Job done.

Are there really that many people technical enough to know what an HDMI cable is without also knowing all TVs are subsidized by spyware with no security protections?

Why would anyone connect a screen to the internet in the first place?

Like, if suddenly computer monitors started asking for wifi credentials would everyone just compulsively punch them in just to see ads and give the manufacturers lots of data just because?

I must be fundamentally disconnected from how consumers think about technology.

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