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macOS Golden Gate Is a Buggy Mess

436 points • by SquareOrbits • yesterday at 2:32 PM • 309 comments • view on HN

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AlexandrB • yesterday at 4:59 PM

I don't get it. We're 2-3 years into the widespread availability of LLMs and software quality, instead of improving, seems to be taking a nose-dive. This is the kind of dissonance between marketing and outcomes that's foundational to my skepticism about AI. Where is all the *good* software that AI is enabling?

ubermonkey • yesterday at 4:54 PM

I'm finding it quicker and more responsive than Tahoe, but I've run into a couple bugs that vex me. None are super troublesome, but I notice them.

The biggest one is that moving application stacks in Mission Control no longer works. In Tahoe and prior systems, if you invoked Mission Control with the "group windows by application" option turned on, windows belonging to a given app were "stacked" under an icon for that application.

This allows the user to move ALL of an app's windows from one display to another, or from one Space (Mac virtual desktop) to another, without having to drag them one at a time.

This broke in GG. I'm sure it'll get fixed in the .1 release, but it's annoying for now.

groby_b • yesterday at 4:17 PM

Commonly held lore is that you do not install a macOS with a minor version of zero. That has been confirmed by shoddy first releases ever since there's a macOS X.

Wait for the next upgrade unless you're forced to go with the first release.

ltbarcly3 • yesterday at 3:55 PM

Every release of MacOS is a mess. Then it gets slightly better and you find workarounds just in time for the next release. That's just how it has always been.

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2OEH8eoCRo0 • yesterday at 3:22 PM

Look at Apple's market cap and salary ranges before reading this article.

skullone • yesterday at 3:13 PM

MacOS has felt like AI slop since before there was AI. I'm a decades long mac user, and there's simply no excuse for how sloppy their releases have become

tiahura • yesterday at 3:10 PM

It’s 25 years old at this point and got lapped by Gnome & kde at least 10 years ago.

It’s time for some apple internal honesty about the state of MacOS gui.

tonymet • yesterday at 5:26 PM

i have a 25% repro focus bug with Spotlight search on ipad when using a keyboard. trouble is, I've reported bugs to Apple, and it's a black hole. why bother?

formvoltron • yesterday at 3:47 PM

happy i've waited

echelon_musk • yesterday at 3:14 PM

macOS 15 is the last usable release.

I switched from Linux to macOS but the lack of QA is going to force me back to Linux once security updates stop for Sequoia.

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mcphage • yesterday at 3:11 PM

I'm sure there's plenty of actual bugs, but a list of places where alignment is off by a few pixels ain't it, chief.

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_doctor_love • yesterday at 3:13 PM

I was chatting with a friend about The Decline and Fall of Apple over the weekend. We both miss Steve Jobs.

For all that Steve was batshit he was willing to do hard things that were "bad for business." I heard so many legendary stories over the years of Steve Jobs holding up releases at the last minute because they weren't up to par. That takes guts in a corporate environment where there is so much pressure to go along and say "well, we have to ship something." No, you don't have to ship something. You can take your time to do it right and ship things that are high quality.

Apple shouldn't assume that just because they are the incumbent that they will be around forever. Today's Steve Jobs could already be alive and plotting...

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rw_panic0_0 • yesterday at 3:10 PM

am I the only one not liking the black tint in Spotlight?

vachina • yesterday at 3:08 PM

Still rocking a Sonoma and everything works, without the liquid glass slop.

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junglistguy • yesterday at 5:43 PM

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tonetheman • yesterday at 3:36 PM

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boringg • yesterday at 3:26 PM

Just AI it /s

osdjeicjejcjjr • yesterday at 3:20 PM

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