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653 points • by etothet • yesterday at 1:02 PM • 775 comments • view on HN

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theroo • yesterday at 3:37 PM

This comment section is full of vibes akin to Dropnbox "this can be built easily with fUSE/ftp sync". "It's just an iPad". This'll be a hit.

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browningstreet • yesterday at 2:32 PM

It’d be nice if the AppleTV had some of these features.

xd1936 • yesterday at 1:16 PM

Some chonky bezel. Not hard to imagine how gen 2 will look.

amelius • yesterday at 4:02 PM

Yes this is easy to build using AI now.

pbrum • yesterday at 2:43 PM

Nonstarter without YouTube and WhatsApp access

LoganDark • yesterday at 9:25 PM

Not happy to learn that the cameras are running LG software. I am not looking forward to whatever "LG Shield" is. "real-time protection from hacking and intrusions" -- needing this is a sign of something very wrong!!

insane_dreamer • yesterday at 9:20 PM

OK but I want it with a (rechargeable) battery so I can easily move it around to different kitchen counters, etc.

gedasss • yesterday at 2:07 PM

That pace shown in their video... no thanks.

XCSme • yesterday at 3:33 PM

So, a tablet?

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misterboo72 • yesterday at 3:53 PM

What would I do with this thing?

ogkarlin • yesterday at 3:30 PM

Apple has really missed the mark lately. I would avoid mediocre AI and skip the vendor lockin. My money is with Fambot.

neillyons • yesterday at 2:53 PM

Just speculating, but I suspect Apple are releasing this because Jony Ive and OpenAI are working on something similar.

Mindwipe • yesterday at 3:21 PM

The main thing this makes me feel is "why doesn't the iPad recognise the user by FaceID and give my five year old the appropriate experience and block my apps if this can?"

Which is perhaps not the feeling Apple intended.

joshstrange • yesterday at 1:21 PM

Meh.

An incredibly locked down device from a manufacturer with terrible track record for this category of device. Their Homepod line has been completely neglected, even with the Mini 2 announcement today it's clear Apple's heart's not in it.

Couple that with the LG trash they are pushing (again, because Apple doesn't care) and it's clear Apple's HomeKit endeavors are still just as dead as they were yesterday. They ceded the home wifi space at the worst possible time and instead of trying to rectify any of that, they ignored that space for over a decade.

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tomaskafka • yesterday at 2:09 PM

Isn’t is amazing how Apple’s answer to having five kids is consistently “pick the one to single out”, without having any process at all for making an exception?

They somehow missed the memo that Sophia’s choice wasn’t an operating manual.

I mean, I’m single indie developer and I have a process to give a lifetime membership to people’s significant others (as Apple has nothing between “a single person” vs “a whole family”, and no option to give eg. discounted bundles for couples), so it doesn’t seem like a rocket science.

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alanwreath • yesterday at 4:39 PM

so this doesn't function as a security camera too?

mmmlinux • yesterday at 2:16 PM

I'm honestly tempted to replace the HomePod Mini that lives in my kitchen with one of these. I wouldn't have to stick my phone to the magnetic knife holder to watch videos while I cook.

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carlosjobim • yesterday at 2:09 PM

Clever marketing video with the whole "family" interacting around the device.

A video with how customers will use this in real life, alone in a room talking to a machine - would just look like somebody who needs to be taken to a mental asylum.

russellbeattie • yesterday at 7:37 PM

It's Apple - they know more than you or I about their products and what their customers will buy, and they know how to market them.

That said, I think the screen is a tad small. My guess is that they felt the need to differentiate the HomeView with a smallish square screen in an effort to avoid comparisons to an iPad on a stand and to invite comparisons to the Apple Watch.

Version 2 will undoubtedly have a new larger screen launched with great fanfare.

altern8 • yesterday at 7:34 PM

WHY

busymom0 • yesterday at 1:37 PM

Looks like a huge Apple Watch to me.

nsxwolf • yesterday at 1:36 PM

This is the return of the 1980s kitchen TV.

allarm • yesterday at 1:09 PM

Can I run HomeAssistant in Kiosk mode on this thing? The only use case I can think of.

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EDC9599190 • yesterday at 2:42 PM

Who else is just happy to see modern homage to the iMac G4?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G4

But seriously, how cool would it be if V2 of this product had mesh wifi and/or could be used in bridge mode?

vcryan • yesterday at 6:00 PM

I always wanted an immovable laptop that is closer to phone size. I'm just a worst of both worlds kids of guy.

carlosjobim • yesterday at 5:37 PM

Could Apple sell this as a cash register for businesses such as cafés, small hotels, and such?

The format is right, it is stuck to a power cord, it would integrate with iPhones that waiters use to take orders, it apparently has a USB-C connector perhaps for a receipt printer, it has Bluetooth and WiFi of course. It can control the music and security systems and lights in a business locale.

Most importantly it has easy separate login for different employees.

And the price is just right.

Is there any important detail I haven't thought about?

manoDev • yesterday at 3:15 PM

Nice try NSA.

crooked-v • yesterday at 4:54 PM

I already tried having more than one HomePod and ran into constant issues with the wrong one answer. How it is supposed to work having both this and the new acts-like-a-HomePod Apple TV?

bubbluppugus • yesterday at 5:02 PM

Hey look it's the half-basketball iMac without the cool arm which a gadget like this should have

Dropped the ball on the usability there with no arm. Could have also marketed a table game function; placed at center of table, arm could allow screen to swivel 360 for everyone to use as needed

The iOS-ification of hardware while they keep part prices high to get people hooked on networked AI over a dumb terminal

gigel82 • yesterday at 4:08 PM

They're getting desperate for more user data... and the funny thing is folks will likely line up to buy and install this TeleScreen 84 in their home like they did for the original Alexa... we're all doomed.

ex-aws-dude • yesterday at 4:04 PM

Guys apple didn't invent this form factor, Alexa had Echo Show 10 at least 5 years ago and alexa with a screen way before that

jonstewart • yesterday at 3:42 PM

The product film is triggering.

m3kw9 • yesterday at 3:37 PM

For those worred about no apps, they 99.99% likely will have apps(I don't work there but I work enough in the ecosystem), but must be specifically designed to fit that form factor like Apple TV/Vision pro/Apple Watch, with their own shared and exclusive API. Tightly controlled UI/privacy/UX. I'd imagine there is a quick path from going from AppleWatch to this.

Is iffy if they will allow a run it like on iPad but you see iphone form factor on it. The UX likely suck bad if they go ahead and takes away from the form factor. Plus companies like FB may just leave it at that like how they did with instagram for ipad for a decade.

m3kw9 • yesterday at 3:25 PM

How are they pricing both versions the same while charging extra 80$ for the mount for the wall mounted version? I thought it was a pricing error and some needs their head checked either way

jonplackett • yesterday at 6:21 PM

So it’s an iPad with no battery / smart home powered by what is still a terrible voice assistant.

Hard pass

scotty79 • yesterday at 3:09 PM

That could have been a phone/tablet dock.

shantara • yesterday at 1:40 PM

“Certain Apple Intelligence features that rely on server-side models are subject to daily usage limits. Expanded access to such features will be available for a fee in the future”

forbiddenvoid • yesterday at 9:16 PM

Seven inch screen.

Why even have a screen at that point?

BonoboIO • yesterday at 2:17 PM

This will get the same attention from apple as the HomePods … zero

Invictus0 • yesterday at 2:11 PM

Looks so soulless. I really prefer Google's approach with the fabric textures.

Vaslo • yesterday at 2:06 PM

Wonder if there will be a way to hack it in the future with Home Assistant or some Linux distro to get HA onto it.

esafak • yesterday at 2:05 PM

Finally, something I can drop kick my Googles for.

Sorry, I'm still learning.

artemonster • yesterday at 7:30 PM

where is my zigbee

baggy_trough • yesterday at 1:40 PM

I wonder what 'Apps Available from iPhone' means on their tech specs page. For example, the Apple TV app.

blondie9x • yesterday at 1:32 PM

Can they just iterate on the HomePod? I want less screen time. Not more.

anianroid • yesterday at 5:47 PM

osborne effect

embedding-shape • yesterday at 1:12 PM

> Siri AI. A personal assistant that helps you find what you need and get more done.1

> Usage limits may apply.

What a great way to start out, to openly flag that people shouldn't rely on it, as it can be pulled away from you without notice. Feels very atypical of Apple, are they starting to get short on cash or what's going on?

lotsofpulp • yesterday at 1:11 PM

iPhone 13 mini, ios 27.0.1, and Siri turned on the ceiling fan along with the lights when I asked Siri to turn on the bedroom lights. Don’t see any reason to believe Siri claims.

diath • yesterday at 2:02 PM

So it's like a worse iPad with a mount?

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blahblah437 • yesterday at 3:44 PM

Can we load Muse into it? There is no way I'm buying this to use Siri.

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