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Gemini 4 Hydrogen

439 points • by dvaplima • yesterday at 6:01 PM • 285 comments • view on HN

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yewenjie • yesterday at 6:16 PM

Honestly I cannot keep up with the naming conventions that keep changing every month.

Argon, Carbon, Hydrogen?

Luna, Terra, Sol, Astra, Betelgeuse?

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sunaookami • yesterday at 7:33 PM

>For everyone: Start using it in the Gemini app model drop down

and then it says for free users there is only "automatic" and you will get Gemini 4 Hydrogen "when it's the appropriate model for the prompt". Yeah sure Google, whatever, I don't care about Gemini models anymore. Too hard to access, constant rugpulls, intransparent pricing, many, MANY outages and in general very unreliable. At this point I just want Google to fail.

ReptileMan • yesterday at 6:20 PM

Are we sure the guy that creates google naming schemes is not held hostage and those are his desperate attempts to communicate with the outside world in concealed way?

prodigycorp • yesterday at 6:14 PM

Google team: these names are an embarrassment

The naming scheme alone has no rhyme or reason. Model names should not be a source of cognitive load.

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thereitgoes456 • yesterday at 6:13 PM

Is this a replacement for Flash-Lite? Because it’s being used to serve answers for Search.

The new naming scheme seems shockingly poor though, “Pro” and “Flash” made intuitive sense to me, and Anthropic and OpenAI kept a sense of scale. Nobody is going to intuitively understand “Oh yes, Hydrogen is smaller than Carbon”, even though it is.

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harryVic • yesterday at 6:25 PM

Their super smart recursively improving ASI models didn't tell them this naming is absolutely terrible?

TacticalCoder • yesterday at 6:22 PM

Are we going to talk about naming and confusing ways to access it, or are we going to discuss how capable the model is?

Every single time a Google model comes out, an army of Anthropic shills sidetrack the discussion.

Can we look at what the model does and discuss whether Google is still in the game or not? (naming models and whether you need to access it by clicking a drop-down menu or making a prayer ain't really relevant)

saberience • yesterday at 6:51 PM

Another day, another nonsensically named google product.

I quit using Gemini models months ago because they are incomprehensible to understand in terms of when to use them and how to navigate the terrible GCP and Gemini UI. It’s a Kafkaesque nightmare.

XCSme • today at 12:02 AM

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ElProlactin • yesterday at 6:09 PM

With all the names for their AI offerings, I need to come up for Oxygen.

beernet • yesterday at 6:11 PM

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Alice_0307 • yesterday at 7:42 PM

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hodder • yesterday at 6:12 PM

Maybe I'm not on the latest models (I do actually pay the min plan), but just this week I tried Gemini again. It still doesn't even get the current date/time of day correct. If it cant do that, I cant trust any output from it. I have no idea how Google fumbled so badly, but benchmark scores don't mean a thing if you cant even get your LLM to output the current date and time correctly.

You could vibe code a better LLM with Fable than what they have delivered. It is embarassing.

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sergiotapia • yesterday at 6:13 PM

Aren't Google leaders embarrassed that the first thing I think of when I see their models drop is: I will see if I can call it from openrouter?

Why are there 7 different ways to call this model from Google? Which one should I use?

Is no one at the wheel calling the shots at Google and it's a PIP every man for himself? I want to try them out, don't know how.

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