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jampekka04/26/20255 repliesview on HN

I find it a bit odd for press to name the person and discuss their health matters on top. Sounds like quite a punishment in itself getting branded like that.

In e.g. Finland names are not published by the press unless the crime is severe and there's a conviction or the person is already a public figure.


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InsideOutSanta04/26/2025

Yeah, this is despicable. For at least the next two decades, if you Google this guy's name, you'll see these stories depicting this guy as either a dangerous criminal or a sadly misguided, mentally unhealthy man, when all he did was order some cool rocks for his collection.

These laws need to change, given the Internet's long-term memory.

mytailorisrich04/26/2025

Trials are public. This is a feature. This means everything can be reported unless the court puts a ban on it. Note, too that the guy pleaded guilty in this case and I think it is right to publicise the court's reasons for the penalty, or lack thereof.

In the UK they release mugshots, full names, and approximate address in the media, after a guilt verdict. Names and approximate addresses are published before since trials are public.

Finland, Germany, France, etc. have gone to another extreme. In France they now even withhold the names of people arrested in the act of murder or terrorism because "people are presumed innocent" and "their privacy must be protected"... which is pushing it beyond sensible and common sense, and is fairly recent practice that seems to have spread from Germany.

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seb120404/26/2025

Same in Germany.

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Uvix04/26/2025

In this case there was a conviction. Hence the two year good behavior bond, rather than being free and clear.

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aaron69504/26/2025

The internet has screw all that up.

The criminal justice system should be transparent. Anyone should be able to watch any proceedings. This fits with your requirements as long as people don't report it.

The Australia Federal Court live streams but it is illegal to yt-dlp / photograph the monitor etc - https://www.youtube.com/@FederalCourtAus/streams

You also need people before and after (if convicted) to know. For instance witnesses or if they too were victims of crime. This is the impossible problem.

It's not even the reporting, it's easy search, as old newspapers have been scanned I've seen a few family secrets (of people still alive) that I would never have known and never needed to know.

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