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timschmidtyesterday at 7:42 PM3 repliesview on HN

There's a big difference between https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentrated_animal_feeding_op... and traditional family farms. In a traditional family farm, animals can live happy and relatively full lives while offsetting a tremendous amount of petroleum products in the form of fuel, insecticide, herbicide, fertilizer, equipment, etc.


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aziaziaziyesterday at 9:33 PM

> traditional family farms.

> relatively full lives

Thanks to point out the difference between industrial and family farm. However I'm not sure what farms in particular you have in mind but anything commercial has non incentive to let the animal live a "relatively full life": the meat of a relatively old animal taste far from what people are used to eat and is (way) more expensive to produce. Some producers add a few weeks to the legal minimum to let them grow a bit more but nothing near their natural expectancy. Lets take chickens for exemple, here in EU:

- standard are harvest 35 days (32 if for export)

- certified (floor, outdoor) at 56 days

- highest quality (Bio and local certifications): 81 day

- egg poultry final harvest: around 1 year and half when egg production slow down

- natural life expectancy of a chicken: 8-10 years.

> can live happy

"happier" would be more accurate IMHO but as some people point our frequently: we can't know for sure how another animal feels so it's only guess. What we can do is remove the farm fences and do not force them onto the slaughter house. They'll choose themselves to go to what makes them happy.

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chneuyesterday at 10:40 PM

No there isn't. This is just stuff y'all tell yourselves to make ya feel better about your cruelty and over consumption.

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vips7Lyesterday at 8:44 PM

Whatever lets you sleep at night my friend.

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