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rubenfiszelyesterday at 8:39 PM1 replyview on HN

> That said, we tried Windmill first and while it was cool for the devs who were able to see the vision, the non-technical users hated it

Founder of Windmill here. This is not too surprising although we are working on it by leveraging AI and just better DX/design. Pleasing devs in the most demanding orgs and the ever-changing expectations is challenging by itself. Pleasing both devs AND non-technical user is a monumental task that we are now giving more attention to by focusing on 2 aspects:

- A better DX/UX that does not sacrifice power-user capabilities but has a less step learning-curve and more intuitiveness to it. That is mostly about good design and hard work. We are taking inspiration from the best and on the intuitiveness, we've learned a lot from n8n and other leaders in the space.

- leveraging AI capabilities in a state-of-the-art way to have the best models generate the code for non-technical users. That is basically just adopting the best practices inspired by cursor such as great auto-completion, great inline code-gen, excellent semantic search.


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oulipotoday at 11:52 AM

Honestly, Windmill is just too much cruft, and too much "this feature is only for paying user"

We can't even have the "be notified on workflow error" feature without being a paid customer, at this stage, it's just a joke to call it open-source