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benchlyyesterday at 8:51 AM3 repliesview on HN

Maybe it's just part of the reflexes I've developed in recent years as an American, but there is never going to be a day where I hand my phone off to anyone for any reason. Not because I am addicted to it, but because there is simply too much PII and sensitive content to protect on it.

Why not just trust people to keep their phone in their pocket when out at a social gathering that was formed for the expressed purpose of disconnecting? Wouldn't that also help the person break the habit of checking their phone frequently while also knowing it is still there?

A few years ago, I realized my screentime was getting out of control. Being a person who has a history of substance abuse (and recovery), I recognize addiction when I see it. So, I took some measure to minimize my use.

1. Remove all non-essential apps. Games, news apps, social media...basically anything that was not helping me get something done. I ended up left with email (work) any my banking or payment apps, while all the "fun" apps got installed on my tablet that stays at home.

2. Use a minimalist app launcher overlay. It's actually crazy how the removal of graphical icons helps, turning everything in lists of words, making you have to think about why you just unlocked your phone and find the specific app instead of something like "oh, there's Discord, I might as well check that while I have my phone open. These launchers also tend to have built-in blockers for notifications.

It seems like these were two simple things, but they were not. Especially at first. For about the first month, I found myself pulling my phone out for no reason, since the trigger that was making me do it (boredom, anxiety, FOMO) was still there, but I learned to cope with them and eventually they faded.

I would not have accomplished that by handing my phone off to other people, which actually makes me more paranoid about what's going given modern privacy concerns. In the US, we even campaign against handing your phone over to law enforcement since the implicit trust has been broken one too many times. Do Europeans share this anxiety?


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trinix912yesterday at 9:28 AM

Very valid points regarding handing your phone to someone. I too don't think the whole lockbox thing is a good solution.

There are places/"events" in Europe where people keep their phones off seemingly without problem (ex. going to the church). But they still have their phones so if there's an emergency, one can just go out the building and pick up that call.

The problem with events is lots of times, people don't go to them to knit together, they go there for networking, so then getting someone's LinkedIn/Instagram/Etsy/... is (unfortunately) the end goal. If we could change that, I think most people wouldn't even need to take their phones out. Perhaps an after-meetup list of all attendees with their LinkedIn/socials? But then again we're at the privacy concerns.

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cardanomeyesterday at 3:33 PM

> Not because I am addicted to it, but because there is simply too much PII and sensitive content to protect on it.

Do people not encrypt their phones?

Of course some state actors might be able to break it with enough time but that should be enough to protect from most petty criminals.

Though I get that you might be unwilling to part with your phone. I guess you could just keep it at home.

kgwxdyesterday at 11:29 AM

> Why not just trust people to keep their phone in their pocket when out at a social gathering that was formed for the expressed purpose of disconnecting?

Ever meet people that believe, to their core, that they are the exception? There's always at least 1 in every crowd. Can't relax properly when you're anticipating a selfish prick will reveal themselves at any moment.