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itakelast Thursday at 3:51 PM3 repliesview on HN

I'm trying to learn vietnamese, but the lessons are really really rough and borderline bad advice.

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AI: Anh mệt is good if bạn are a man speaking about yourself. You can also say, “Em mệt” if you’re a woman.

this isn't correct. If you are of "older brother" age and are male, you say Anh. Em is for if you are "younger person" (does not matter the gender). Women tend to prefer being called "em" (even if they are older), because women prefer to be identified as younger than their true age... But that doesn't mean you can't call younger men em.

A good tutor would know your age relative to theirs and explain this context.

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It would say english phrases with a vietnamese accent.

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It also would give me really complex vietnamese phrases that I am not ready for. when I prompt for an explaination or translation, it would get off track from the original thing we were learning.

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Way more people in Vietnam (and the globe) speak southern Vietnamese, but the tutors seem to be from north Vietnam.

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The STT also was very forgiving if I pronounced things incorrectly. Or it would confuse english and vietnamese. I would say, "Phai", but it heard "bye"

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I was ready to pull out my credit card, but I can't trust it to teach me the right information. I pay $160/mo for Vietnamese tutoring ($20 per class). This would be way cheaper and I don't have to schedule my classes.


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mariano54last Thursday at 6:11 PM

We are really sorry for the subpar experience. We did not test Vietnamese, and it seems like the quality is not sufficient. Thanks for pointing out the issues.

true_pklast Thursday at 8:05 PM

Hey, it’s great to see other people learn Vietnamese! And your feedback is on point. I’m still at the beginning and just built a tool to help me learn basic phrases. I will very much appreciate the feedback! https://envn.app

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tempodoxlast Thursday at 4:03 PM

This sounds very much like the kinds of mistakes that LLMs typically make. It's a pity, I would love a good language learning platform.

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