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bilekasyesterday at 8:45 AM1 replyview on HN

The Typhoon and the Rafale are 4.5 gen, because they focused less on stealth which is just not as big a priority for Europe. But they are very much comparable, and I believe refulable from RAF. That said there is a 6th gen in development, FCAS, but there where delays, which is always the case.

interesting tests in dogfighting were done at least : https://www.businessinsider.com/nato-pilots-break-down-f-35-...

Now will dogfighting matter? Who knows, but the EU certainly has different priotities.


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preisschildyesterday at 9:11 AM

> because they focused less on stealth which is just not as big a priority for Europe

What do you mean "for europe"? Many European NATO members are buying stealth F-35s because for them stealth is a priority.

> FCAS, but there where delays, which is always the case.

The entry of FCAS into service is expected in 2040 lmao, definitely not "at present" like OP said.

Also the UK is a member of the competing GCAP (Global Combat Air Programme) project

> Now will dogfighting matter

No. Of course not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Combat_Air_Programme

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