Chat Control repelled 4th time in the EU
Nice! They will keep trying until they wear people down. Keep up the great battle!
I would really like to know from a perspective of an informed Danish citizen, why the Denmark chose to focus on the Chat Control legislation as one of their priorities during its EU presidency. It somehow doesn't fit with my view of the Scandinavians as a technically competent people. The proposed solution is absurd and can easily be overcome by the real offenders.
All this means there's a blocking minority (supposedly) which can go away immediately if Germany flips. The debate is happening today. Nothing is repelled.
The title needs to be corrected. It's borderline maliciously incorrect.
Discussed yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45209366
The most depressing and disgusting - though not surprising - part is that the politicans want to draw out exemptions for themselves with these laws, under supposed "professional secrecy" rules.
What do they have to hide, exactly? After all, their logic tells us that they shouldn't worry if they have nothing to hide, right? And if anyone should have their chats publicly available, the number 1 people should be the scumbags that are pushing for this so adamantly. Let's see them lead by example, then maybe I would consider this as anything other than a draconian power grab.
With the EU being only nominally democratic in operation, the minority will face pressures on unrelated fields (EU funds, etc) by Brussels and larger dogs, until it yields. Happened time and again.
Great! Crazy that it can be brought back every time though, it makes me very uncomfortable.
meanwhile more and more public schools roll out cameras and surveiled environments for the students
when those students enter the workforce, they expect the surveilance. they grew up under chat control so they're used to it. get with the times to live and die another day
Am I correct to understand that the amount of arrests thanks to end-user backdoors for CSAM, ever, is zero?
I know normal ordinary people that were defending this...
Chat Controls will inevitably lead to concentration camps and mass killings once the power learns what people actually talk about. They become paranoid and afraid. They will try to nip dissent and perceived threat in the bud. We are on the slippery slope and people should stop seeing EU as roses and fluffy bunnies. They are corrupt autocrats and if you think they are not, you are rejecting evidence of your eyes and ears.
Just ridiculous how authorities are perservering with this.
The ruling should come with a timeout period; they're not allowed to try anything similar again for 20 years or whatever, and even then only if circumstances have changed.
What is the UI from in the twitter screenshot? I'd like to read the positions of the Supporting/Undecided countries.
see you next year
There should be sorts of an exponential backoff mandated for the contents of bills.
Now, every lobby group keeps pushing their sketchy agenda, knowing well that they will eventually pass it. Worst case, it will be passed bit by bit.