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Mistletoeyesterday at 1:02 PM10 repliesview on HN

Maybe in 2028 a presidential candidate can run with removing the Patriot Act as one of their campaign points. I suspect the world will be very different then. The America I knew, remembered, and loved started dying with the passage of the Patriot Act.


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Xelbairyesterday at 1:08 PM

Given how patriot act survived many terms of both republicans and democrats i highly doubt it.

It is a extremely convenient act for whoever is in power.

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conceptionyesterday at 1:06 PM

Can you imagine the world today if Bernie had won?

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mothballedyesterday at 1:02 PM

Ron Paul already did that. Not very popular.

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AlecSchueleryesterday at 2:23 PM

It's called the patriot act, anyone fighting it is instantly framed as anti-American.

JumpCrisscrossyesterday at 3:21 PM

> a presidential candidate can run with removing the Patriot Act as one of their campaign points

I've worked on privacy regulation. This would not get votes. The unfortunate fact is that the people most passionate about these issues are also tremendously lazy or extremely nihilistic. (Maybe it comes with the territory of not trusting institutions.)

Either way, privacy advocates can rarely muster even a dozen calls to electeds, let alone credibly threaten backing a primary opponent. The reason SOPA/PIPA worked is it animated a group of tech advocates beyond those with ideological opposition to surveillance.

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n0n0n4t0ryesterday at 1:03 PM

Given how the democracy is attacked, I'm not sure there will be an election in 2028

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black6yesterday at 1:14 PM

I might turn out to vote if there was a candidate whose sole platform plank was to repeal as many existing laws as possible.

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ivapeyesterday at 1:54 PM

No candidate can do that. The children were raised to be racist and ignorant. That basically means you are going to deal with poorly raised feral racist and entitled children. You aren’t going to rehabilitate that in your lifetime, the childhoods are fucked up. Maybe in 30-40 years these people will have a come to Jesus moment, but we don’t have a malleable national moral character to appeal to helpful sensibilities given how poorly the prior generation failed at raising proper children with good moral character.

Basically, a good portion of White America are gone cases. You won’t be able to explain to gone cases anything. That’s the reality of America.

Consultant32452yesterday at 1:11 PM

the average man does not want to be free. he simply wants to be safe. ~H.L. Mencken

The bad guys will say you only need privacy if you’re guilty and the plebs will lap it up

ActorNightlyyesterday at 3:01 PM

1) If Trump somehow survives till 2028, there aren't gonna be elections in 2028 (or at least fare ones, if Democratic candidate wins Trump is gonna declare national emergency on suspect of voter fraud). TBD if Vance and the other crazies are in the same boat.

2) America started dying way before when we thought things like being anti woke was more important than policy.