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frohyesterday at 9:21 PM2 repliesview on HN

> Germany, long a symbol of anti-nuclear politics, is beginning to shift.

err, no. it's not. industry lobby tries again and again, yes, and party officials parrot that lobbying, yes.

but no: there is no Endlager (permanent spent nuclear fuel waste site) in sight, the costs of dismantling used plants are outrageous and if it were not for nimbyism, we'd be essentially self sustaining on wind and solar within a decade.

matter of fact fossil and nuclear sponsored fud on wind and solar is the single biggest issue we face in Germany.

Atomkraft? nein, danke.


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throwawayffffasyesterday at 10:47 PM

State level NIMBYism is what's happening with nuclear. The state decides we won't have that in our back yard in the case of Germany.

Fear uncertainty and doubt is the only thing blocking nuclear power.

The irony is that the fud has been spread by "environmentalists" and has only managed to keep fossil fuels around for the last 20 years greatly exacerbating our climate change predicament.

preisschildyesterday at 10:02 PM

> but no: there is no Endlager (permanent nuclear waste site) in sight

The Problem in Germany is that by law the state has to build a repository, while the operators have to pay for it. The operators did pay (~24 bln EUR), but politically either NIMBY parties (such as CDU/CSU/SPD) block it, or the Greens (under Habeck) block progress so they can continue to shout "what about the waste???"

In Finland the operators can build their own repository and they did it cheap and relatively fast.

Also from an even more anti-nuclear country (austria): Kernenergie? Ja bitte!

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