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fy20today at 2:37 AM1 replyview on HN

One thing to bear in mind about Europe is that to go carbon neutral you need to be able to deal with winters.

First of all they are darker than the US due to latitude, so solar during winter is basically a no go in half of the places where people actually live. I have rooftop solar and November - February it might as well not exist. One January it generated 20kWh for the whole month vs a peak of 70kWh per day in the summer. Wind is an option, but NIMBYism makes that hard as Europe doesn't have as much empty space as the US.

The other thing is heating: in Europe around 64% of residential energy use goes to space heating Vs 42% in the US. And the majority of that comes from gas. So to go carbon neutral, you actually need to greatly increase electricity demand. This is why Europe is pushing for new homes to be really well insulated.


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bluefirebrandtoday at 4:31 AM

I don't think you should dismiss opposition to wind as mere NIMBYism

Windmills can be super loud and disruptive if they are built near you

Take a look around online and you can find people posting videos along the lines of "A windmill was built near my house, now every evening it's like a strobe light in here as the sun sets behind the windmill"

I wouldn't want to live anywhere near one myself

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