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Ensuring a National Policy Framework for Artificial Intelligence

157 pointsby andsoitislast Thursday at 11:56 PM201 commentsview on HN

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/11/trump-signs-executive-order-...

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-signs-executive...


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rubyfanyesterday at 10:58 PM

Is it me or does this seem like naked corruption at its worst? These tech CEOs hang out at the White House and donate to superfluous causes and suddenly the executive is protecting their interests. This does nothing to protect working US citizens from AI alien (agents) coming to take their jobs and displace their incomes.

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aw124today at 1:03 PM

Question number one. Is dominance really a necessary part of a country's existence? Can't you just have peaceful relations and supportive relationships with other countries to live in harmony, when artificial intelligence brings benefits to all countries, not just the USA? Can't you build on the technological foundations that have been laid to create sustainable development for your society?

The desire for more. To have more than others, is a key problem that generates unhealthy politics. Unhealthy foreign policy towards other countries. In your pursuit of being first in everything. Being first in everything, preventing the development of other countries, holding onto technologies for yourself. You create an imbalance. You create an imbalance in the global economy, in politics, in the social sphere, and in the social environment.

Isn't there an alternative to having sustainable development? Built on the principles of mutual support and focused not on dominance, but on collaboration between peaceful states. Between peaceful states.

treetalkeryesterday at 12:24 AM

Federal Preemption: A Legal Primer — https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R45825

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throw0101ayesterday at 1:00 AM

Executive order (EO) count over the last few presidents:

* Bush (41): 166

* Clinton (two terms): 364

* Bush (43; two terms): 291

* Obama (two terms): 276

* Trump (45): 220

* Biden: 162

* Trump (47; <1 year): 218

Source:

* https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/executive-or...

Someone commented that (one of?) the reason that Trump is using EOs so much is probably because is not willing (or able) to actually get deals on in the legislature to pass his policies (or what passes for policy with him).

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rokoss21today at 12:15 PM

The regulation vs innovation framing is a false dichotomy here. Most developed economies have found that thoughtful regulation enables _sustainable_ innovation - see GDPR and data privacy innovation, or pharma regulations driving R&D.

For AI specifically, baseline standards around model documentation, data sourcing transparency, and compute auditing would actually help larger players (who can afford compliance) and reduce race-to-bottom dynamics that harm smaller developers.

insane_dreamertoday at 7:42 AM

And here I thought the GOP was the "states rights" "small gov" party.

techblueberryyesterday at 12:10 AM

A win for states rights!

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maplethorpetoday at 9:20 AM

> shall, in consultation with the Special Advisor for AI and Crypto

It's funny to me that they categorise AI and crypto together like this, two technologies that have nothing to do with each other (other than both being favoured by grifters).

treetalkeryesterday at 12:32 AM

Federal Preemption: A Legal Primer — https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R45825

arminiusreturnstoday at 1:04 PM

Where this is really going: AI is the boogie man they are going to try to use to infiltrate and take over computing, it's 90s cryptowars 3.0

The pivot will be when they starting talking about AGI and it's dangers and how it must be regulated! (/clutches pearls)... right now they are at the "look at AI we need it it's awesome" stage.

ngcc_hktoday at 5:50 AM

National … is it relevant ? And what is the point and why republicans do what the democrats do. Wonder.

ChrisArchitectyesterday at 4:29 AM

meanwhile the url is a different, more direct kind of statement:

eliminating-state-law-obstruction-of-national-artificial-intelligence-policy

d--btoday at 5:04 AM

This is hardly readable. What’s this about?

nickpsecuritytoday at 4:02 AM

More than anything, they need to match and then exceed Singapore's text and data mining exception for copyrighted works. I'll be happy to tell them how since I wrote several versions of it trying to balance all sides.

The minimum, though, is that all copyrighted works the supplier has legal access to can be copied, transformed arbitrarily, and used for training. And they can share those and transformed versions with anyone else who already has legal access to that data. And no contract, including terms of use, can override that. And they can freely scrape it but maybe daily limits imposed to avoid destructive scraping.

That might be enough to collect, preprocess, and share datasets like The Pile, RefinedWeb, uploaded content the host shares (eg The Stack, Youtube). We can do a lot with big models trained that way. We can also synthesize other data from them with less risk.

chrisjjyesterday at 1:52 PM

> Earlier this week, he reiterated that sentiment in a post on Truth Social, saying: “We are beating ALL COUNTRIES at this point in the race, but that won’t last long if we are going to have 50 States, many of them bad actors

Has Trump IDed the alleged bad actor states?

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andsoitislast Thursday at 11:56 PM

White House AI czar and Silicon Valley venture capitalist David Sacks elaborated on the rationale for the executive order in a post on X.

Sacks argued that this domain of “interstate commerce” was “the type of economic activity that the Framers of the Constitution intended to reserve for the federal government to regulate.”

At the Oval Office signing ceremony, Sacks said, "We have 50 states running in 50 different directions. It just doesn't make sense."

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siliconc0wtoday at 1:58 AM

An EO is not law - the hard part is going to be to get congress onboard. Trump is losing political steam and AI is widely unpopular. Most of this country feels AI is going take their job, poison their children, and increase energy prices.

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xeonmcyesterday at 9:13 AM

In a parallel universe, the government in the 20th century signed bills protecting tobacco giants from State regulation to encourage investments furthering the country’s international competitiveness in the tobacco industry.

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chrisjjyesterday at 1:46 PM

True current title: Trump signs executive order aimed at preventing states from regulating AI

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k310yesterday at 2:39 PM

> Republicans earlier this year failed to pass a similar 10-year moratorium on state laws that regulate AI as part of Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill Act, with the Senate voting 99-1 to remove that ban from the legislation. Trump’s order resurrects that effort, which failed after bipartisan pushback and Republican infighting, but as an order that lacks the force of law. [0]

> Trump has framed the need for comprehensive AI regulation as both a necessity for the technology’s development and as a means of preventing leftist ideology from infiltrating generative AI – a common conservative grievance among tech leaders such as Elon Musk.

On the other hand ..... Grok and others ...

From the party of "states rights" and "small government"

[0] https://www.hks.harvard.edu/faculty-research/policy-topics/d...

fallingfrogtoday at 1:37 AM

As expected, the stupidest imaginable policy. Take all the guardrails completely off, even though the ones that are in place are already toothless. Don't worry, the free market will ensure that everything is turned into paperclips at the maximum possible speed.

bgwaltertoday at 2:20 AM

Pure nepotism. Trump also recently softened on cannabis. Who is involved in cannabis (and Adderall) startups? David Sacks, "Crypto and AI czar" and YouTube pundit.

We were promised a better economy, better job chances, and better housing by Mr. Sacks on YouTube.

Instead we get "crypto", "AI" and addictive substance grifting.

cebertlast Thursday at 11:59 PM

I wish this article would include what the details of the framework are. It’s unhelpful in its current form.

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ChrisArchitectyesterday at 4:33 AM

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ChrisArchitectyesterday at 4:35 AM

Some more discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46239009

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henningyesterday at 10:54 PM

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ETH_starttoday at 3:03 AM

Very welcome order to prevent the anti-AI movement from stymieing the development of AI in the U.S.