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adastra22last Saturday at 2:04 AM3 repliesview on HN

I’ve posted this before, but here goes: we achieved AGI in either 2017 or 2022 (take your pick) with the transformer architecture and the achievement of scaled-up NLP in ChatGPT.

What is AGI? Artificial. General. Intelligence. Applying domain independent intelligence to solve problems expressed in fully general natural language.

It’s more than a pedantic point though. What people expect from AGI is the transformative capabilities that emerge from removing the human from the ideation-creation loop. How do you do that? By systematizing the knowledge work process and providing deterministic structure to agentic processes.

Which is exactly what these developments are doing.


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colechristensenlast Saturday at 2:50 AM

>What is AGI? Artificial. General. Intelligence.

Here's the thing, I get it, and it's easy to argue for this and difficult to argue against it. BUT

It's not intelligent. It just is not. It's tremendously useful and I'd forgive someone for thinking the intelligence is real, but it's not.

Perhaps it's just a poor choice of words. What a LOT of people really mean would go along the lines more like Synthetic Intelligence.

That is, however difficult it might be to define, REAL intelligence that was made, not born.

Transformer and Diffusion models aren't intelligent, they're just very well trained statistical models. We actually (metaphorically) have a million monkeys at a million typewriters for a million years creating Shakespeare.

My efforts manipulating LLMs into doing what I want is pretty darn convincing that I'm cajoling a statistical model and not interacting with an intelligence.

A lot of people won't be convinced that there's a difference, it's hard to do when I'm saying it might not be possible to have a definition of "intelligence" that is satisfactory and testable.

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aaronblohowiaklast Saturday at 2:12 AM

We have achieved AGI no more than we have achieved human flight.

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bluefirebrandlast Saturday at 2:14 AM

> we achieved AGI in either 2017 or 2022

Even if this is true, which I disagree with, it simply creates a new bar: AGCI. Artificial Generally Correct Intelligence

Because Right now it is more like Randomly correct

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