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The Universal Pattern Popping Up in Math, Physics and Biology (2013)

111 pointsby kerim-calast Friday at 5:49 AM40 commentsview on HN

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0134340today at 3:43 PM

>The data seem haphazardly distributed, and yet neighboring lines repel one another, lending a degree of regularity to their spacing

Wow, that kind of reminds me of the process of evolution in that it seems so random and chaotic at the most microscopic scales but at the macroscopic, you have what seems some semblance of order. The related graph also sprung to mind just how very like organisms repel (less tolerance to inbreeding) but at the same time species breed with like species and only sometimes stray from that directive. What is the pattern that underlies how organisms determine production or conflict with other organisms and can we find universality in it?

I guess it's called "universality" for a reason. I suppose if we look hard enough, we'll see it in more things. I read the article and I'm hoping some brilliant minds out there can dissect musical tastes in the same way. I'd love to see if it could relate to what we find harmonious in music and what we find desynchronous via different phase, frequency and amplitude properties.

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readingnewstoday at 10:32 AM

Not sure why you have to read 3/4 of the article to get to a _link_ to a pdf which _only_ has the _abstract_ of the actual paper:

N. Benjamin Murphy and Kenneth M. Golden* ([email protected]), University of Utah, Department of Mathematics, 155 S 1400 E, Rm. 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090. Random Matrices, Spectral Measures, and Composite Media.

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FjordWardentoday at 11:11 AM

Maybe also heap fragmentation

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cosmic_apetoday at 9:26 AM

2013 But still cool

dist-epochtoday at 10:11 AM

There is the well known problem that "random" shuffling of songs doesn't sound "random" to people and is disliked.

I wonder if the semi-random "universality" pattern they talk about in this article aligns more closely with what people want from song shuffling.

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blurbleblurbletoday at 2:11 PM

What's with all the spammy comments?

andytratttoday at 12:55 PM

woah this is amazing, 10x upvotes!! love the example of bus spy.

yes at this point we can confidently say, even though academia won't admit it ever -- and in case people don't know, YC killed replaced beat Harvard so institutions predating America are dead and truth is decentralized internet culture -- the universe is a computer and both Friston's Free Energy as well as ComputerFuture.substack.com are simply correct.

Quantum confusion and all probability theory is Godel incomplete in that a deterministic computational universe is the unifying theory physics will never grasp. Seth Lloyd articulated it in Turing Test for Free Will paper. Eric Weinstein and Stephen Wolfram are trying to tell us. People who don't understand me or disagree happen to have P vs NP baked into their brains. Also a false dichotomy.

PG has mentioned the insufficient resolution of English recently, and confused people will see why he's so obsessed with Lisp shortly as Terry Tao will confirm all this within 10 years. Or he won't and we'll wait another 10-20 for the ASI. Curt's podcast TOE will probably get there soon.

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anthktoday at 9:22 AM

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11109248/

DNA as a perfect quantum computer based on the quantum physics principles.

Joel_Mckaytoday at 11:05 AM

The Physics models tend to shake out of some fairly logical math assumptions, and can trivially be shown how they are related.

"How Physicists Approximate (Almost) Anything" (Physics Explained)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGUMC19IISY

If you are citing some crank with another theory of everything, than that dude had better prove it solves the thousands of problems traditional approaches already predict with 5 sigma precision. =3

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