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aunty_helentoday at 5:08 AM1 replyview on HN

I agree with you in part, you can’t expect to learn something like coding without the doing.

The brave new world is that you no longer have to do “coding” in our sense of the word. The doing, and what exercises you should learn with have both changed.

Now students should build whole systems, not worry about simple Boolean logic and program flow. The last programmer to ever need to write an if statement may already be in studies.


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throw10920today at 5:18 AM

> The brave new world is that you no longer have to do “coding” in our sense of the word.

Notice how I also talked about coding being a way that you learn how computers work.

If you don't code, you have a very hard time understanding how computers work.

And while there's some evidence that programmers may not need write all of their code by hand, there's zero evidence that either they don't need to learn how to code at all (as you're claiming), or that they don't need to even know how computers work (which is a step further).

There's tons of anecdotes from senior software engineers on Hacker News (and elsewhere) about coding agents writing bad code that they need to debug and fix by hand. I've literally never seen a single story about how a coding agent built a nontrivial program by itself without the prompter looking at the code.