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josephgyesterday at 11:38 PM4 repliesview on HN

I've been arguing for this for years. There's no reason every random binary should have unfettered, invisible access to everything on my computer as if it were me.

iOS and Android both implement these security policies correctly. Why can't desktop operating systems?


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gioboxyesterday at 11:51 PM

The short answer is tech debt. The major mobile OSes got to build a new third party software platform from day 0 in the late 2000s, one which focused on and enforced priorities around power consumption and application sandboxing from the getgo etc.

The most popular desktop OSes have decades of pre-existing software and APIs to support and, like a lot of old software, the debt of choices made a long time ago that are now hard/expensive to put right.

The major desktop OSes are to some degree moving in this direction now (note the ever increasing presence of security prompts when opening "things" on macOS etc etc), but absent a clean sheet approach abandoning all previous third party software like the mobile OSes got, this arguably can't happen easily over night.

marky1991yesterday at 11:43 PM

Mobile platforms are entirely useless to me for exactly this reason, individual islands that don't interact to make anything more generally useful. I would never use any os that worked like that, it's for toys and disposable software only imo.

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IcyWindowstoday at 12:37 AM

Windows has had this for over a decade, but no one wants to put their application in a sandbox.

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BobbyTables2today at 3:59 AM

And then there’s dbus…

Damn file protection not even enough…