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throwaway-aws9yesterday at 5:35 PM1 replyview on HN

The cloud is a psyop, a scam. Except at the tiniest free-tier / near free-tier use cases, or true scale to zero setups.

I've helped a startup with 2.5M revenue reduce their cloud spend from close to 2M/yr to below 1M/yr. They could have reached 250k/yr renting bare-metal servers. Probably 100k/yr in colos by spending 250k once on hardware. They had the staff to do it but the CEO was too scared.

Cloud evangelism (is it advocacy now?) messed up the minds of swaths of software engineers. Suddenly costs didn't matter and scaling was the answer to poor designs. Sizing your resource requirements became a lost art, and getting into reaction mode became law.

Welcome to "move fast and get out of business", all enabled by cloud architecture blogs that recommend tight integration with vendor lock-in mechanisms.

Use the cloud to move fast, but stick to cloud-agnostic tooling so that it doesn't suck you in forever.

I've seen how much cloud vendors are willing to spend to get business. That's when you realize just how massive their margins are.


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re-thcyesterday at 5:41 PM

> The cloud is a psyop, a scam.

You're just young.

> Suddenly costs didn't matter and scaling was the answer to poor designs.

It did.

Did you know that cloud cost less than what the internal IT team at a company would charge you?

Let's say you worked on product A for a company and needed additional VM. Besides paperwork, the cost to you (for your cost center) would be more than using the company credit card for the cloud.

> Sizing your resource requirements became a lost art

In what way? We used to size for 2-4x since getting additional resources (for the in-house team) would be weeks to months. Same old - just cloud edition.

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