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re-thcyesterday at 7:01 PM1 replyview on HN

> Yes. Internal IT teams ran old-school are inefficient.

They aren't. It's politics. They want to protect and improve their own headcount and resources.

> One is hard dollars the other is funny money.

All the same to a team / department. It's not like people run it like their own wallet.

> finds a way to extract more rent out of their customer base

I find you just have a grudge against the cloud and hence too young. For every example you have the so-called "internal" IT team can and will do just the same. Go back to 90s, 00s - it was the same. The infra team wanted some fancy new storage arrays and charge everyone 2x for the new service etc.

> and for some reason lots of startups still think it's optimized for them. It's not and it hasn't been for a long time.

The problem isn't the cloud. Startups have always worked like this even 10-20 years ago. It's about wastage. They can raise and grow faster. So they think. The problem, if any is recently money isn't as cheap. Nothing new.


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throwaway-aws9yesterday at 9:40 PM

> the so-called "internal" IT team can and will do just the same.

but how is shadow IT gonna solve anything? it'll get kudos from the junior VP, chuckles from the SVP, but the CIO will laugh you out of the room at how poor you are at getting shit done internally.

> The problem isn't the cloud.

The problem is how gullible folks are at cloud advocacy, or any vendor advocacy in general. It's all lies but cloud lies are better than others! Your 3-year commitment won't scale down to low figures. Oh you wanna have that many nodes come black Friday? Gotta reserve! Yup, infinite scale actually means infinite lies.

Above all, the cloud is not cheap. 11B profit on 33B revenue per quarter at AWS. If your local IT spend is inefficient, I bet it won't be more efficient in the cloud.