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Calavaryesterday at 10:38 PM1 replyview on HN

The classical definition of a clean room implementation is something that's made by looking at the output of a prior implementation but not at the source.

I agree that having a reference compiler available is a huge caveat though. Even if we completely put training data leakage aside, they're developing against a programmatic checker for a spec that's already had millions of man hours put into it. This is an optimal scenario for agentic coding, but the vast majority of problems that people will want to tackle with agentic coding are not going to look like that.


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visargatoday at 5:43 AM

This is the reimplementation scenario for agentic coding. If you have a good spec and battery of tests you can delete the code and reimplement it. Code is no longer the product of eng work, it is more like bytecode now, you regenerate it, you don't read it. If you have to read it then you are just walking a motorcycle.

We have seen at least 3 of these projects - the JustHTML one, the FastRender and this one. All started from beefy tests and specs. They show reimplementation without manual intervention kind of works.

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