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TikTok's 'addictive design' found to be illegal in Europe

585 pointsby thmyesterday at 12:11 PM426 commentsview on HN

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ddmmayesterday at 2:09 PM

They will pay upfront or put some geopolitical pressure https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c24g8v6qr1mo

heraldgeezeryesterday at 7:19 PM

ok sooo, youtube in general I can watch 8h streams. I watch it insane. what about that

concatsyesterday at 2:03 PM

TikTok has a lot of issues, such as privacy, dubious content, 'brainrot', etc. I don't want to seem like I'm necessarily defending TikTok specifically here.

But this really just stinks of Regulatory Capture to me. Their main argument is that the consumers like to use the app too much?

Why? Because it's smarter and not as enshittified as the competitors?

I'm sure if youtube, facebook, reddit, etc reduced the number of ads, and started showing more relevant content that people actually cared about, they too would start being "more addictive". Do we really want to punish that?

What's the end goal here?

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WhereIsTheTruthyesterday at 1:05 PM

Funny how Europe's "concern" for digital health only kicks in when a non US platform starts winning

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globular-toastyesterday at 1:00 PM

Good. I feel like since cracking down on smoking in the 90s we've become really complacent to the dangers of addiction. Just like with smoking you'll get people inside the industry defending it too (like in this very comment section).

bluedinoyesterday at 4:10 PM

Probably, but it's hard to take them seriously after the EU cookie debacle.

benbojanglesyesterday at 5:24 PM

Am I the only one who does not know what tiktok is or does?

ajsnigrutinyesterday at 1:26 PM

Might be a generational thing, but I never understood the "shorts" (in any format on any social network).

I can watch a 9 hour video on GTA games without problems (not in one sitting, but in parts), but 3 'shorts' in a row with not enough info and explanation to be interesting makes me close any of the 'shorts' apps (tiktok, youtube shorts, instagram....).

(eg, the 9 hour video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Faxpr_3EBDk )

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metalmanyesterday at 6:19 PM

doom scrolling is not so much an addiction as it is a disease * , as heroin has fully functioning addicts who live very normal office work lives over a complete career. doom scrolling renders the patient unable to fully partisipate in society or do meaningfull work or interact in ways that promote there self interest. I get emails daily from people looking for work, which are clearly written by someone/thing, other than the person, and when I insist on turning a call into there job interview, they freeze up, and hang up after any request for detail. Waste products and they never even got the chance to get ripped out of there minds and have a wild good time first.

* juvinile dimentia

xrdyesterday at 4:55 PM

I used to feel, despite knowing how much harm the US has caused around the world, that I was lucky to be born American. Shamefully, I knew that deep down it was better to be born in the US than in a slum in Rio or Calcutta.

Now, I question that, because I know that American companies will never step in and regulate themselves, nor other "foreign run" companies like TikTok (I know it is really murky right now). I know Trump, who owns his own social media company, and Elon Musk, who has invaded the government and owns his own propaganda machine, will never be on the right side of history. My kids are forcibly addicted to their phones and these companies are racing to a bottom I don't think exists. I watch them consume in horror and helplessness.

Spare me your thoughts, childless commentators. You have no idea what kids these days are facing. You have no idea how hard I have fought. It is so horrible. And, the only parents who winning are Amish, Waldorf or home school kids. Every single friend in my kids life is even worse off than mine, so it is pushers everywhere. 13 year old brains were never designed to survive this kind of assault.

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dirtyoldmickyesterday at 6:30 PM

Europe is so stupid.