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antonvstoday at 1:35 AM1 replyview on HN

This sounds very adversarial to me. I’m glad our devops team doesn’t think like you.


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jpollocktoday at 1:44 AM

In my career, DevOps was never a separate organization. It was a role assumed by the code owners. SRE (is it up, is the hardware working, is the network working?) was separate, and had different metrics.

Having separate teams makes it adversarial because both orgs end up reporting into separate hierarchies with independent goals.

Think about the metrics each team is measured on. Who resolves conflicts between them? How high up the org chart is it necessary to go to resolve the conflict? Can one team make different tradeoffs on code quality vs speed from another, or is it company-wide?