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coredev_yesterday at 3:22 PM2 repliesview on HN

I do not agree, I don't want EU to turn to US. Taxes should be on a level to support the welfare state.


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Nescoyesterday at 3:31 PM

Which it can’t. There is nothing to disagree about. With current demographics projection no amount of taxes can cover welfare states

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wtcactusyesterday at 3:31 PM

The average rate of social security and tax state contributions from French workers is now 47% of the total gross wage (EDIT this was corrected, the original figure stated on Wikipedia is much higher and it's wrong).

The French state spends 57% of all French GDP [2]. For context, this is higher than what the Soviet Union spent in the years before the communist regimen felt (41% to 47% during the 1980s [3]).

How much taxes shall we pay to "support our independence"? Will I be allowed to keep at least 10% of what I earn, or am I supposed to give it all to the state to live in this wonderful Socialist utopia?

And here you are, asking to increase taxes even more. The only way out of this madness is a civil war. We are past any sanity left.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_France

[2] https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/government-at-a-glance-...

[3] https://www.elibrary.imf.org/display/book/9781557755186/ch05...

EDIT: The wikipedia page is indeed wrong: "The overall rate of social security and tax on the average wage in 2022 was 82% of gross salary". This was the tax wedge of these 2 contributions, not the average tax on wage as the Wikipedia page states. Average tax on gross wage in France is 47%. The worker then has to pay VAT and other fees/taxes from the remaining 53%.

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