A natural question to ask in response, but I did not find out in each case in a way where I should say anything about their engineering so since I've said something about that I can't say who. I get how it comes off. If the Criterion of Embarrassment helps, I find myself sorely unqualified for this new world.
To be honest, I shouldn't have said anything in the first place. It isn't useful as it is because you can't reasonably believe me. I just feel blindsided by the stuff that's working now.