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TonyStryesterday at 8:38 AM5 repliesview on HN

> [...]and the redemption, when it comes, is Red’s.

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It never sat right with me that Andy is shown to be innocent, and some viciously evil irrelevant character did it instead. This, I thought, takes away the whole redemption aspect of the movie, turning Andy into an innocent Mary Sue. I'd never considered that it may be more about Red's character instead. Though I didn't catch a satisfying explanation for that idea in the review, and it's been a long time since I watched the move.

I think I'll rewatch it today.


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maxericksonyesterday at 2:59 PM

Andy has to be innocent for his escape (and bringing down of the warden) to be a redemption. It's a redemption of his life against the injustice he was subjected to, not a redemption of his soul for some evil that he committed.

If he was a double murderer, plotting to and successfully escaping isn't a redemption, it's just a murderer getting away with it.

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twoodfinyesterday at 3:50 PM

Andy is by no means innocent, he’s just not guilty of any crime he should have been imprisoned in Shawshank for.

The guy who sits drunk in his car eyeing a revolver is not a Mary Sue. And his demeanor of resignation at Shawshank suggests he doesn’t consider himself just an unlucky victim of blind fate & a golf pro.

ted_bunnyyesterday at 9:58 AM

Yes, it was a bit too uncomplicated to me and smacks of "Oscar Bait."

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spiderfarmeryesterday at 8:55 AM

It was my first movie about prison life in the US and the failures of the American justice and correctional system. I since learned it was realistic in every aspect apart from the escape, and that not much has changed since.

Everything about it is depressing and somehow it’s the best movie ever.