alt Hacker News> conservative talking point
The problem with your accusation is that I am a long ways from conservative, and what I said is a pop culture reference straight from South Park.
> In 2024, it wasn't about politics
It wasn't? The dems took a candidate so weak in charisma [0] that she lost her first primary to another candidate also historically weak in charisma (Biden) who himself tried multiple times to run for president and only won in 2020 because he barely edged out the most historically unpopular president in memory. The cherry on top was that she didn't have to win a single primary to become the nominee, and her party had just spent months insisting that the guy at the helm, who promised to be a one term president, was losing his already unfortunately weak ability to speak clearly before realizing how badly he was going to lose to Trump and just gifting the nomination to his VP. What a shit show.
As a long time democrat I remain astounded at how horridly incompetent the leadership is and the lengths to which rank-and-file supporters will go to make excuses for them. Followed closely by the insistence of democratic voters to focus on narrow cultural priorities that resonate with a small number of people and don't move the needle at all for like 80% of the population. What on God's green earth happened to being, you know, progressive? What about labor, or healthcare, or affordable groceries, housing, etc?
[0] yes, charisma isn't the ideal requirement for a presidential candidate, but failure to recognize that this is basically how all presidents win election just means you are going to lose more often.
Plus, we still have people insisting that Kamala lost because she was a woman. No, she won because she sucks as a political candidate. Hillary had precisely the same issue. There are strong women who communicate well who would perform much better, but they have thus far decided to avoid the circus.
> that I am a long ways from conservative
You are 100% conservative, because only a braindead conservative would be typing some paragraph about charisma, ignoring the fact that TRUMP LITERALLY TRIED TO OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT. You guys are so bad at hiding this that its embarrassing at this point, so stop trying.
And before you start saying "no he didn't", please go and read the entire supreme court case where he said that yes, he did in fact present a fradulent set of electors, but he should be immune from prosecution because he was acting in official capacity, and Supreme Court agreed.
To be super crystal clear, if instead of Kamala, the option was even "worse" in your eyes, like low level left wing politician from San Francisco that wanted to do something like UBI, and you still voted for Trump, you are a traitor to the country that honestly should be tried on charges of conspiring for treason and given appropriate capital punishment, and the argument of "oh i didn't know he tried to overthrow the government" should not fly.
There are levels of bad, and what Trump did is pretty much one step short of using actual military forces to take over the congress and force people to sign the papers at gunpoint installing himself as a dictator. An example needs to be made of people who support this kind of person.
But hey, like I said, this is what people wanted. Well see if everyone feels the same way when US economy tanks and bullets start flying as unemployed people looking to feed their families will have nothing to lose. Maybe well even have a Red Scare 2 except instead of communists, everyone will be paranoid of Maga people.