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lifestyleguruyesterday at 7:58 AM5 repliesview on HN

American surveillance is one thing. All over Europe people install Chinese IP cameras mostly from paranoic and imaginary reasons. Camera literally facing neighbour's windows and doors and their neighbour's own camera. Nobody understands that it's economically impossible to sell IP camera with a mobile app and cloud storage of video for 150 EUR. Their business model is not simply selling cameras.

EDIT. I'm really confused how you concluded that this comment is anti European. Quit whatever drugs and social media if something like this is triggering your paranoia.


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aweiheryesterday at 11:35 AM

Personally, I know nobody who has the need to install this type of crappy surveillance shit on their front door in Europe to start with.

You frame it like the only alternative to American surveillance cameras is Chinese surveillance cameras, but no cameras seems to be no option for you.

Who is the one with the paranoid, imaginary reasons?

Edit: Ah btw, here in germany we have of course cameras to see who is in front of the door, it is called Türsprechanlage. It does not record, it does sent to the cloud, it is not smart, and is developed and produced in Germany, for example by Siedle.

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omnifischeryesterday at 8:04 AM

All over Europe is generalisation. At least in France, Germany, Switzerland it is too much pain and paperwork to get any camera installed. If you are worried about chinese then seriously you cannot live.

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lnsruyesterday at 11:15 AM

The camera is absolutely doable for 150€. Just look what raspberry Pi costs. The cut all the corners, take ancient ddr2 memory, ancient processor, optimize every piece for manufacturing and it’s done. Of course, CE testing and regulatory nonsense is not included. But would you buy 150€ camera or the same camera with proper certification for 200€?

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notrealyme123yesterday at 8:16 AM

Where is this comment coming from? Why Europe? Are those cameras not used in other places? Are they specifically made for Europe?

Are there sources?

Or is this just a fantasy story?

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wiseowiseyesterday at 8:48 AM

> Nobody understands that it's economically impossible to sell IP camera with a mobile app and cloud storage of video for 150 EUR.

Then maybe those cunts can sell a camera without cloud storage for once? Or the one that connects to local hub, like Chinese cameras do?