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soulofmischiefyesterday at 10:46 PM1 replyview on HN

Asking if a model censors the nature or existence of horrific atrocities is absolutely not xenophobic or nationalist. It's disingenuous to suggest that. We should equally see such persistent questioning when American models are released, especially when frontier model companies are getting in bed with the Pentagon.

I don't understand your hostile attitude; I've built things with multiple Chinese models and that does not preclude me or anyone else from discussing censorship. It's a hot topic in the category of model alignment, because recent history has shown us how effective and dangerous generational tech lock-in can be.


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Zetaphortoday at 12:01 AM

> We should equally see such persistent questioning when American models are released, especially when frontier model companies are getting in bed with the Pentagon.

Yes, we should! And yet we don't, and that is exactly why I am so tired of seeing the exact same comment against one nation state and no others. If you're going to call out bullshit, make sure you're capable of smelling your own shit as well, otherwise you just come across as a moral tourist.

We all know the model is going to include censorship. Repeating the exact same line that was under every other model release adds nothing to the conversation, and over time starts to sound like a dog whistle. If you're going to create a top level comment to discuss this, actually have an original thought instead of informing everyone that water is wet, the sky is blue, and the CCP has influence over Chinese AI companies.

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