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Students Are Being Treated Like Guinea Pigs: Inside an AI-Powered Private School

74 pointsby trinsic2today at 5:29 PM59 commentsview on HN

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grueztoday at 5:46 PM

Besides the coverage from fox news/new york times that the article mentions, there's also a much more extensive review from a parent who had his kids in alpha school: https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/your-review-alpha-school

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briandwtoday at 7:30 PM

AI is held to a much higher standard than the existing education techniques.

Even without AI teachers are implementing new techniques without any evidence of their effectiveness. In some cases, there is mountains of evidence that their techniques are not effective. From the prohibition on phonics in reading, learning styles, building thinking classrooms, or just the entire idea of constructivism. These are all worse than the techniques that they replace. AI systems at the very least are measured and have some kind of tracking of what works.

I'm not advocating for AI necessarily, but education is in the pre-scientific phase and it needs to start by implementing evidence based techniques, AI or no.

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ashton314today at 6:02 PM

> “All educational content is obsolete. Every textbook, every lesson plan, every test, all of it is obsolete because gen AI is going to be able to deliver a personalized lesson just for you,” Joe Liemandt, Alpha School’s “principal” and the founder of Trilogy, the company that owns many of the apps used by Alpha School, said in a podcast interview published last year.

I wonder if this fellow has ever read a serious book. I'm skeptical.

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pfdietztoday at 6:55 PM

We should only accept life damaging educational malpractice from public schools.

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rahimnathwanitoday at 6:49 PM

The typical 5th grader at Alpha School has math achievement at the 85th percentile of 5th graders. This is not bad, but it's not remarkable.

I love the approach Alpha School is taking. And I believe that they're really trying to iterate to something that works really well. But I think many people are misled by the way Alpha School words claims about their achievement.

Alpha School's web site has this bullet point:

"99th Percentile: The majority of students consistently outperform national averages."

If you just glance at this, you may assume it means the majority of students perform at the 99th percentile.

But that's not what it's saying.

Alpha School's mean achivement score (across all students in a particular grade) puts the 'district' (collection of schools) at the 99th percentile of districts.

But that's not an amazing feat, because there are 10,000+ school districts in the USA. Most of those don't have the positive selection bias Alpha School has (due to the price and ideology). Moreover, most districts have adverse selection, as many academically-inclined parents will choose to send their children to private schools.

You can judge the results for yourself. Here is the school score report from Spring 2025: https://go.alpha.school/hubfs/MAP%20Results%20-%2024%2025/20...

Here is some of the data from the Winter 2026 school score report: https://x.com/jliemandt/status/2023011075029922131?s=20

This leads to the takeaway at the start of this comment: the typical 5th grader at Alpha School has math achievement at the 85th percentile of 5th graders.

I can't add images here, so I'll link to the evidence here: https://x.com/RahimNathwani/status/2023111922636476899

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bethekidyouwanttoday at 6:40 PM

The dream is clearly asking a student what they’re interested in, getting them to self direct on a project with guidance and deliver something you can evaluate. I would hazard that AI helps rather than hinders this.

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ChrisArchitecttoday at 6:52 PM

Related previously:

Unbound Academy hasn’t replaced teachers with AI

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45443004

MengerSpongetoday at 6:45 PM

These founders are careless and weirdly cruel. It's wildly unethical, immoral, wrong to do this to children.

"My investigation into Alpha School also reveals that the massive amounts of data the company collects on students, including videos of them, is stored in a Google Drive folder that anyone with the link—even if they’ve left the company, or if it was sent to them—could access."

Prison. People need to go to prison for this.

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rglanytoday at 6:33 PM

So they are trained to follow instructions from a computer, trained to be unable to function without a computer. Let me guess that they are also exposed to hundreds of trolley problems so that they can make "difficult decisions" later.

Probably not exposed to humanities or arts so as not to weaken their utility as tech goons.

A new cadre school for Technocracy Inc.

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