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wsatbyesterday at 1:15 PM2 repliesview on HN

Wow, this is a weird a comment. Who are "they"? You sound like you think there's some giant conspiracy against JS frameworks. Is the Illuminati behind this? I kid, but a browser feature is kind of what it is. It can take years for features to make it into enough browsers to make them usable. It's quite a bit different than the fluidness of a JS framework.

This discussion comes up all the time and I always have the same response: not everyone needs a full-on framework for what they're doing. They also may need to share that code with other teams using other frameworks or even third parties. The post even mentions that web components may not be a good fit for you.


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austin-cheneyyesterday at 1:41 PM

Its not a conspiracy. It is just group behavior following a trend as loudly as possible.

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troupoyesterday at 5:41 PM

> Who are "they"? You sound like you think there's some giant conspiracy against JS frameworks.

Yes. There is. The main developers and proselityzers were completely insanely biased against web frameworks (especially React).

It wasn't even a conspiracy. All you had to do was to follow Alex Russel (the person who introduced the idea of web components in the first place) and see his interactions with framework authors and his views towards web frameworks.

The new people in the space driving the specs are hardly any better. E.g. their reactions to Ryan Carniato's rather mild criticism of Web Components is just filled with vile, bile, and hate.

They literally refuse to even admit they have a problem, or want to look at any other solutions than the ones they cook up.

> but a browser feature is kind of what it is. It can take years for features to make it into enough browsers to make them usable.

Strange, browsers push dozens of specs for web components without ever taking any time to see if the yet another half-baked "solution" is actually workable.

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