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franktankbankyesterday at 3:31 PM8 repliesview on HN

Can't say one way or another whether the power of the president was abused in this case but its a sad state for businesses who can't get started because of flip flopping policy. I'm for the tarrifs, its absolutely ridiculous to think only Wall Street matters.


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illithid0yesterday at 3:38 PM

The power to impose tariffs is given to Congress in the Constitution. Exceptions are allowed but in rare and specific situations. The fact that SCOTUS struck it down means the tariffs as imposed were unconstitutional.

You can be for tariffs all you want, I'm not here to argue their efficacy. But you absolutely cannot with any intellectual honesty still be on the fence about whether he abused his power given this ruling.

It is not "flip flopping policy" to break the bounds of your Constitutional power and be shut down by one of the branches meant to check you.

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fullsharkyesterday at 3:36 PM

Just because businesses / wall street doesn't like something doesn't mean it's necessarily good for every day Americans. The tariff vision of on-shoring manufacturing and reliving the glory days of the post WW2 era was rooted in fantasy. The US simply cannot compete given its labor costs and actual manufacturing know-how.

Perhaps this is an overdue wakeup call, and a freak out is in order regarding this reality but unconstitutional tariffs alone were never going to solve this problem.

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interestpiquedyesterday at 3:35 PM

The tariffs have been flip flopping all year due to the admin. That’s why it’s not smart for it to be up to executive discretion

pavlovyesterday at 3:38 PM

If you don’t think the president did anything wrong, then whose fault is it that those businesses are suffering from flip-flopping policy?

mastaxyesterday at 3:35 PM

The tariffs have been absolute hell on small businesses and manufacturing businesses of any size.

elAhmoyesterday at 4:03 PM

Could you elaborate on this:

> I'm for the tarrifs

What makes you think they are good?

energy123yesterday at 4:13 PM

This is the first semblance of policy certainty. The ruling is a good thing for everyone, Republicans and Trump included, even if they're not intelligent enough to understand why.

blackguardxyesterday at 3:38 PM

It is almost like the flip-flopping policy was never meant to boost US manufacturing, but to secure kickbacks and deals from big companies and countries to get favored treatment.