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handityyesterday at 7:21 PM6 repliesview on HN

A hard fork doesn't matter when the vast majority of phones have a locked bootloader.


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cogman10yesterday at 7:32 PM

Yeah, that's the biggest issue. And it all originally stemed from phone carriers wanting to lock customers into their services.

We need some pro-consumer regulations on hardware which mandate open platforms. Fat chance of that happening, though, as the likes of both the EU and US want these locked down systems so they put in mandatory backdoors.

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paxysyesterday at 7:26 PM

Google's own phones do not have a locked booloader. You can buy a Pixel and put GrapheneOS on it in like 10 minutes. But basically no one does this, because no matter what people say in online forums they actually value ease of use and shiny features over privacy and software freedom.

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gary_0yesterday at 8:40 PM

Even if locked bootloaders weren't a thing, not being able to just buy a phone with an open Android pre-installed means it would get relegated to the Linux Zone, with a whole lot of "security alert" and "device not supported". Also, low popularity leads to fewer development resources, so it would probably suffer from lack of polish.

emsignyesterday at 9:47 PM

People will keep using the OS their phone comes with and that would be Google's Android. It's worse than with Windows PCs and Windows to be honest because phones have a locked bootloader.

jszymborskiyesterday at 8:24 PM

People give a lot of flack to the EU, but this is the sort of thing they would regulate.

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g947oyesterday at 9:28 PM

Or the fact that you need device drivers for every piece of hardware in a phone.