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toomuchtodoyesterday at 8:56 PM2 repliesview on HN

Wikimedia could pay, they have an endowment of ~$144M [1] (as of June 30, 2024). Perma.cc has Archive.org and Cloudflare as supporting partners, and their mission is aligned with Wikimedia [2]. It is a natural complementary fit in the preservation ecosystem. You have to pay for DOIs too, for comparison [3] (starting at $275/year and $1/identifier [4] [5]).

With all of this context shared, the Internet Archive is likely meeting this need without issue, to the best of my knowledge.

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Endowment

[2] https://perma.cc/about ("Perma.cc was built by Harvard’s Library Innovation Lab and is backed by the power of libraries. We’re both in the forever business: libraries already look after physical and digital materials — now we can do the same for links.")

[3] https://community.crossref.org/t/how-to-get-doi-for-our-jour...

[4] https://www.crossref.org/fees/#annual-membership-fees

[5] https://www.crossref.org/fees/#content-registration-fees

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bawolfftoday at 2:09 AM

> Organizations that do not qualify for free usage can contact our team to learn about creating a subscription for providing Perma.cc to their users. Pricing is based on the number of users in an organization and the expected volume of link creation.

If pricing is so much that you have to have a call with the marketing team to get a quote, i think it would be a poor use of WMF funds.

Especially because volume of links and number of users that wikimedia would entail is probably double their entire existing userbase at least.

Ultimately we are mostly talking about a largely static web host. With legal issues being perhaps the biggest concern. It would probably make more sense for WMF to create their own than to become a perma.cc subscriber.

However for the most part, partnering with archive.org seems to be going well and already has some software integration with wikipedia.

RupertSaltyesterday at 9:56 PM

If the WMF had a dollar for every proposal to spend Endowment-derived funds, their Endowment would double and they could hire one additional grant-writer

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