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throwaway77385today at 1:10 PM1 replyview on HN

> spinning disks have been replaced by NVMe solid state drives with near-RAM I/O bandwidth

Am I missing something here? Even Optane is an order of magnitude slower than RAM.

Yes, under ideal conditions, SSDs can have very fast linear reads, but IOPS / latency have barely improved in recent years. And that's what really makes a difference.

Of course, compared to spinning disks, they are much faster, but the comparison to RAM seems wrong.

In fact, for applications like AI, even using system RAM is often considered too slow, simply because of the distance to the GPU, so VRAM needs to be used. That's how latency-sensitive some applications have become.


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fluoridationtoday at 2:31 PM

>for applications like AI, even using system RAM is often considered too slow, simply because of the distance to the GPU

That's not why. It's because RAM has a narrower bus than VRAM. If it was a matter of distance it'd just have greater latency, but that would still give you tons of bandwidth to play with.

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