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Americans are destroying Flock surveillance cameras

362 pointsby mikecetoday at 7:04 PM228 commentsview on HN

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the__alchemisttoday at 8:01 PM

This breakdown in rule of law is unfortunate. Ideally, this would be handled by, in order of desirability:

  - Flock decision-makers and customers holding ethics as a priority, and not taking the actions they are due to sense of duty, community, morals etc
  - Peer pressure resulting in ostracization of Flock execs and decision makers until they stop the unethical behavior
  - Governments using legislation and law enforcement to prevent the cameras being used in the way they are
Below this, is citizens breaking the law to address the situation, e.g. through this destruction. It is not ideal, but it is necessary when the higher-desirability options are not working.
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drnick1today at 8:10 PM

> While some communities are calling on their cities to end their contracts with Flock, others are taking matters into their own hands.

This is absolutely the right thing to do.

Remove and smash the cellular modem in your car while you are at it.

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neilvtoday at 7:50 PM

Recent: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras (bloodinthemachine.com) | 456 points by latexr 2 days ago | 293 comments | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47095134

roger110today at 8:51 PM

These kinds of headlines always read like wishful thinking on the author's part more than a real trend

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nvesptoday at 8:32 PM

Kind of weird all of those people weren't all up in arms about it before the whole ice thing, why would you be mad that they're tracking somebody else but not mad that they have been slurping up data about your movements and habits this whole time, then monetizing said data by selling it to industries like insurance companies etc.

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Lammytoday at 10:07 PM

Waow (based based based)

arbitrary_nametoday at 10:02 PM

Could someone explain how they are doing this, safely and without detection or damage to municipal property?

Terr_today at 7:49 PM

> broken and smashed Flock cameras

I wonder how resistant the cameras are to strong handheld lasers. I suppose they could harden them against some common wavelengths with filters, but that'd affect the image clarity in normal use.

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linkjuice4alltoday at 8:24 PM

The easier fix seems like doxxing politicians and embarrassing them until they protect all of their constituents against things like this. We got a small modicum of privacy with the Video Privacy Protection Act [0] after Bork's video rental history was going to be released.

[0] https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=video+r...

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_ink_today at 9:45 PM

Why were those installed in the first place?

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reilly3000today at 8:59 PM

Doesn’t that just mean Flock makes more money from making replacements?

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LeoPantheratoday at 7:53 PM

America is really now two Americas. The divide between traditional freedoms and neo-authoritarianism is getting wider. But America is so large that even the minority (just) that believes in freedom is still 167 million people. Even if only a small percentage of that number, from either side of the divide, believes in violent activism, things are going to get worse before they get better.

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belindertoday at 8:33 PM

All they had to do was not air a very expensive superbowl commercial

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ToucanLoucantoday at 7:50 PM

> Merchant reports instances of broken and smashed Flock cameras in La Mesa, California, just weeks after the city council approved the continuation of Flock cameras deployed in the city, despite a clear majority of attendees favoring their shutdown.

Well who could've seen that coming.

palad1ntoday at 8:38 PM

This is my America. Bravo.

dlev_pikatoday at 9:34 PM

A little direct action a day, keeps the fascists away

hackernews682today at 7:47 PM

good.

NoImmatureAdHomtoday at 8:32 PM

God Bless America

bradfitztoday at 7:54 PM

Oh no.

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know-howtoday at 9:01 PM

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cboyardeetoday at 8:13 PM

GOOD

CodeWriter23today at 9:28 PM

The authors misspelled “domestic terrorists”.

steviedotbostontoday at 8:26 PM

This is really bad for all the reasons that people have mentioned (vigilante "justice" never is a good thing) but people have a misplaced understanding of right and wrong here. Flock cameras have helped solve some major crimes, and people will be glad to have this technology around if they are ever a victim.

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