I don't see Z.ai (GLM 5) in the list though. I consider Qwen/Kimi to have a close relationship so I might not be sure but Qwen might be using Kimi data (I have written another comment in more depth)

I still prefer kimi fwiw. It's one of the best models I have witnessed open source and when I tried GLM 5, it really was lacklustre for me on its launchday but I will have to see it for myself now comparing the two maybe as I do see GLM 5 do some good things in benchmarks but we all know how benchmarks should be less trusted.

I still think that there is still some hope in chinese models even after this ie. they aren't completely dependent on the large models seeing GLM 5.

I am seeing an accusation of GLM 5 doing Distillation[0] but I am not seeing any hard evidence of it.

[0]: https://mtsoln.com/id/blog/wawasan-720/the-temu-fication-of-...